Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: KYBOY]
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.I wonder how much of peoples choice in trap is just due to recency bias. kinda like switching broadheads because you just got unlucky enough to miss an artery and got a bad blood trail, when in reality it had not much to do with the broadhead.
I'm not saying that's the case with beaver, most folks are pretty loyal to the same few beaver traps BUT trappers are gear junkies too and they often jump on the next new trap that comes out and swear its the best thing since sliced bread.. Sometimes it is and sometimes its no better than anything we already have but its just "new"... Then after a season or two you see a ton of them show up for sale in the trap shed.. I'm just the opposite of the new gear junkie. More like stuck in my ways. I find something that works and the last thing I want to do is try something new and have to change up my whole system. There's something to be said for stability, at least that's how I justify it. I like my #5 LS's.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: jooleyen]
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03/27/24 09:34 AM
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As stated above, the Longsprings (even the slightly stronger sprung Duke #5) will lose you beaver. Always the same telltale sign: Trap at the bottom of the drowner with a Toenail in the jaws.
A fun trap but most won't use them for serious ADC work.
I will say good for you for noticing the issue. Many people don't.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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With good beaver traps you dont have to worry about "slippage" due to fighting the trap or for any reason. Ive watched a number of beaver get caught, you only have to hold them for 5-6 minutes underwater and they are done. I've quit using Bridger 5's because of the reasons the original poster stated. Theres often slippage on the rear foot with them. Good beaver trappers that I know have had the same issues. I dont remember ever remember seeing it with MB750's. I cant afford any escapes when doing ADC trapping, I dont get paid extra to come back and try to catch a trap-shy beaver.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/27/24 10:22 AM
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Lots of times the slippage occurs when the water isn't deep enough to drown on a hind foot catch.
Steve WTA NRA
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/27/24 11:41 AM
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I've caught and held a few beaver by a toe with my CDR7.5s I never liked the #5 Bridger LS. I had too many pull outs with them.
Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: gman]
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03/27/24 11:49 AM
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Paul Dobbins
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my gut tells me that the trap initially grabbed them by the ankle based on the marks all around the ankle.
If you want to see how easy the trap will slip down on that hind foot, put the foot in the trap just below the ankle. Then stepping on the chain, grasp the front feet and pull upward. You'll probably be surprised at how easy that trap slides down the foot. This is why I will never use laminations on my beaver traps. I don't want that pressure spread out over a larger area. i want the jaws to have more bite.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/27/24 12:21 PM
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Exactly what Paul mentioned.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/27/24 03:27 PM
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my gut tells me that the trap initially grabbed them by the ankle based on the marks all around the ankle.
If you want to see how easy the trap will slip down on that hind foot, put the foot in the trap just below the ankle. Then stepping on the chain, grasp the front feet and pull upward. You'll probably be surprised at how easy that trap slides down the foot. This is why I will never use laminations on my beaver traps. I don't want that pressure spread out over a larger area. i want the jaws to have more bite. That's true and with a few traps that for some odd reason have rounded jaws...... Its only worse.. Takes a stout trap with proper jaws to dig in and hold below the ankle. 750's, CDR's are a couple that stay put where they snap or do to for me anyway.. Ive had good luck with Bridger #5 coils too...I use several pounds of pan tension and bed them as solid as I can. I can honestly say I rarely ever have a toe catch.. They are usually buried pretty deep..
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/27/24 03:43 PM
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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I've tried just about every beaver trap out there, just for experimental and fun. MB750's have been unbeatable for me. None of the Bridger 5's have performed satisfactory for me. I'm leaning back towards 750s being my go-to trap. Ya, I like my beaver footholds. I admit that, I like using different ones but I have more 750's by far..They are like a dependable old tractor. They just flat work, strong as heck and lock up solid, almost too solid sometimes...workhorse trap 750's make even poor beaver trappers like myself, unlike the guys above, look good.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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All i do is back foot stuff so i use a cdr. If your castor mound trapping with shallow water setting for a front foot anything will do. Also use some TS 85's, have noticed my older one's are getting weak springed though.
Can't deal with that crazy trigger set up on MB's, like my fingers too much plus got too many toes in them.
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