No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter
Anyone know the state of the tide when it was coming down river?
That can add or subtract depending but whatever the state the vessel needs to be making headway to maintain control. Otherwise you're just going where the water takes you.
Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse
[Re: Foxpaw]
#8108239 03/26/2412:48 PM03/26/2412:48 PM
If it’s intertidal they would probably time their departure to work with the tides, which are fairly big right now due to a full moon. Pilot would be on the bridge and hopefully the helmsman understands English. Crew on watch should all be on standby at stations prepared for such emergencies as loss of power and/or steering. Perhaps River Birch will chime in here-he would have some good insight
Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse
[Re: 3 Fingers]
#8108272 03/26/2401:29 PM03/26/2401:29 PM
By time of year that river should have the max water coming down so there's current.
warrior, it is intertidal there, last hour of ebb tide so 1 to 2 kts I expect.
Originally Posted by 3 Fingers
Pilot would be on the bridge and hopefully the helmsman understands English. Crew on watch should all be on standby at stations prepared for such emergencies as loss of power and/or steering.
Definitely had a Chesapeake Bay pilot and maybe a harbor pilot as well. Ship crew may or may not understand English but must have an interpreter on board to relay commands.
A distracted bay pilot let one ship run hard aground just outside the river couple years ago, took months to get it off.
What everybody misses is the wind effect on a ship pilied up with containers....they act like a sail...no rudder response and you go where the wind and tide take you.
Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse
[Re: Foxpaw]
#8108276 03/26/2401:32 PM03/26/2401:32 PM
By time of year that river should have the max water coming down so there's current.
warrior, it is intertidal there, last hour of ebb tide so 1 to 2 kts I expect.
Originally Posted by 3 Fingers
Pilot would be on the bridge and hopefully the helmsman understands English. Crew on watch should all be on standby at stations prepared for such emergencies as loss of power and/or steering.
Definitely had a Chesapeake Bay pilot and maybe a harbor pilot as well. Ship crew may or may not understand English but must have an interpreter on board to relay commands.
A distracted bay pilot let one ship run hard aground just outside the river couple years ago, took months to get it off.
What everybody misses is the wind effect on a ship pilied up with containers....they act like a sail...no rudder response and you go where the wind and tide take you.
Low tide was 0200, so.shouldnt have been much. I saw calculation of force of a 3 mph wind, perpindicular, on Square footage of that ship/ sea cans, and perpendicular, But reported wind was about 0.
Looks like they dropped starboard anchor right before.
Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse
[Re: Foxpaw]
#8108293 03/26/2402:08 PM03/26/2402:08 PM
By time of year that river should have the max water coming down so there's current.
warrior, it is intertidal there, last hour of ebb tide so 1 to 2 kts I expect.
Originally Posted by 3 Fingers
Pilot would be on the bridge and hopefully the helmsman understands English. Crew on watch should all be on standby at stations prepared for such emergencies as loss of power and/or steering.
Definitely had a Chesapeake Bay pilot and maybe a harbor pilot as well. Ship crew may or may not understand English but must have an interpreter on board to relay commands.
A distracted bay pilot let one ship run hard aground just outside the river couple years ago, took months to get it off.
What everybody misses is the wind effect on a ship pilied up with containers....they act like a sail...no rudder response and you go where the wind and tide take you.
Thank you very much!
wanna be goat farmer.
Re: Francis Scott Bridge collapse
[Re: Foxpaw]
#8108340 03/26/2403:47 PM03/26/2403:47 PM