Re: ATF at it again
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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03/23/24 03:43 PM
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well which is the sadder failure
that either you had a criminal gun runner running an air port and the FAA and TSA should have known or the ATF failed in bringing a guy who they knew the constant location of, without blood shed
either the government failed or the government failed.
oh I left out if the guy was buying all those guns and NICs just kept passing him , why not just shut him down with a nics denial and tell him they needed to talk to him before he bought any more.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: Boco]
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03/23/24 04:44 PM
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You people that think child diddlers like Koresh and other criminals are good guys are sickos. You do know that those alleged diddled children were all killed because of the way the FBI and ATF handled the whole situation, don’t you ? Didn’t look too professional. Better to be alleged molested and alive, than burned alive and dead. They could have de-escalated the whole situation and picked up Koresh at the local diner a week or two later. Also, Randy Weaver and his family were not diddling anyone, just sitting under an apple tree with a hack saw , sawing off a shotgun barrel that a undercover agent set him for. I agree both Koresh and Weaver were stupid, but both situations were not handled by professionals, looked to me handled more like gung ho thugs.
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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03/23/24 05:41 PM
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Koresh burnt the place down and culted them all to death like Jim Jones. Too bad the atf wasnt around to take out that creep.before he culted 900 inocent people to death.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: Squash]
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03/23/24 05:43 PM
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You people that think child diddlers like Koresh and other criminals are good guys are sickos. You do know that those alleged diddled children were all killed because of the way the FBI and ATF handled the whole situation, don’t you ? Didn’t look too professional. Better to be alleged molested and alive, than burned alive and dead. They could have de-escalated the whole situation and picked up Koresh at the local diner a week or two later. Also, Randy Weaver and his family were not diddling anyone, just sitting under an apple tree with a hack saw , sawing off a shotgun barrel that a undercover agent set him for. I agree both Koresh and Weaver were stupid, but both situations were not handled by professionals, looked to me handled more like gung ho thugs. You're wasting your time, Squash.
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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03/23/24 05:48 PM
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Boco I was watching it live when that tank set the building on fire. The video has been changed to show a delay. To date none of the people, including those that were children, members of the cult, have ever claimed that there were chomo,s in the group. I don't know what perverse pleasure you get from your off the wall comments but it gets old. They were attacked for arming their selves. No NFA fire arms were found either. The Clintons were rabidly working to dismantle American citizens right to be armed. An armed group of cultists had them worried. There is no way to justify what big brother did that day.
In fact my dad called me a few minutes later as he could not believe what he just saw.
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: Boco]
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03/23/24 05:48 PM
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Koresh burnt the place down and culted them all to death like Jim Jones. Too bad the atf wasnt around to take out that creep.before he culted 900 inocent people to death. Boco, you spend way way too much time worrying about what the Americans are doing. Why don't you go frost tan a coyote or something.
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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03/23/24 05:54 PM
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Think about this. What possible reason would there be to stick a canon barrel through the wall instead of using a different armored vehicle to knock down the wall or back into it with that tank. Government is out of control.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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03/23/24 05:58 PM
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You spend too much time worrying about me. I'm all caught up on the fur handling,and started into the tanning. Now you can calm down. And I dont worry about anything.I like it when LE cracks down on criminals and dont much care for those who worship the criminals
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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03/23/24 07:16 PM
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Sounds like BATF does not want another Ruby Ridge
The job of a Patriot is not to protect his country but to protect the people from the tryannical government
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Re: ATF at it again
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03/23/24 07:21 PM
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You spend too much time worrying about me. I'm all caught up on the fur handling,and started into the tanning. Now you can calm down. And I dont worry about anything.I like it when LE cracks down on criminals and dont much care for those who worship the criminals Wow!! What a perfect subject. When they catch you with your hidden illegal guns you didn't turn in in Canada I believe you will feel differently. But then it will be to late. Claim you don't have those sks stashed all you want but you have insinuated you did more times than I can remember.
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Re: ATF at it again
[Re: 8117 Steve R]
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03/23/24 07:30 PM
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I got a big pile of guns,all legal here for your information. SKS is a common hunting rifle in the north-it doesnt jam up at 40 below.Can throw it in the sleigh under a pile of traps and it will still perform flawlessly when needed. Now go check your hut for gubmint drones,lol.
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Re: ATF at it again
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03/23/24 09:13 PM
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They musta been skert he was going to flush those guns
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Re: ATF at it again
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03/24/24 08:39 AM
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Maybe he needed killing? I doubt we ever know. An article I read said they THOUGHT he had computer and paper records. They were worried they would be destroyed. Sounds like cop speak to me. He was not doing straw purchases from gun dealers as I understand it but buying off individuals on armslist and at gun shows then reselling. He bought and sold enough to make the feds claim it was a business requiring an FFL. I wonder why somebody making 200,000 a year would put that much effort into a few extra thousand?
Anybody else wonder why the feds are not putting that kind of effort into destroying the American drug cartels? Surely its not a farce to keep the public from thinking about the multi billion dollar a year illegal drug trade? Focus on firearms and the public will support disarmament IMO.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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