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Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102172
03/17/24 08:49 PM
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Great point


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102206
03/17/24 09:11 PM
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The bigger the Church the more likely it is that it is led by a false teacher.

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102231
03/17/24 09:28 PM
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I'm a firm believer that you can't buy your way into Heaven.

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: blackoak] #8102247
03/17/24 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blackoak
I'm a firm believer that you can't buy your way into Heaven.

Or work your way. wink

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Woodsloafer72] #8102317
03/17/24 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Woodsloafer72
The bigger the Church the more likely it is that it is led by a false teacher.


Or it's a church that is lead by a true man of God. If your church doesn't grow, you might need to verify the message.

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102338
03/18/24 01:22 AM
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Anyone remember Jim Bakker 2021: Where Is the Televangelist Today? - Heavy.com

Sep 3, 2021 · Jim Bakker was a televangelist with ex-wife Tammy Faye Bakker who fell from stardom after a financial scandal, prison time and allegations of sexual assault. Today in 2021, Bakker is still...

Author: Alyssa Choiniere


Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.

Andrew Lang (1844-1912) Scottish poet, novelist and literary critic









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Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Guss] #8102400
03/18/24 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Guss
Not all preachers are in it for the money! Some are but to say most is a stretch.



No. Most or more are into the money. Then there is the pedophilia issue. Look into that too


Till that day.....
Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102403
03/18/24 06:36 AM
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I would hate to guess how much my parents gave Jim Baker, Jerry Falwell, Oral Roberts, and David Wilkerson. Mom still sends money to swindlers of their caliber but will not tell me any details. I would not be surprised if Copeland is successfully scamming her. The only thing in my book scummier than swindling the religious, is someone that preys on children.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102405
03/18/24 06:38 AM
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Where's Peter Popoff and his lady? Selling the little tube of genuine holy water?


you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: patrapperbuster] #8102437
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Originally Posted by patrapperbuster
Originally Posted by Guss
Not all preachers are in it for the money! Some are but to say most is a stretch.



No. Most or more are into the money. Then there is the pedophilia issue. Look into that too

The peds are in the Catholic chuch not a Bible Church.

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102442
03/18/24 07:54 AM
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102483
03/18/24 09:18 AM
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the "prosperity gospel" guys are preaching heresy.

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102496
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Sin is sin, no one is immune.
Bad peaple infiltrate into places we don't intend on them being.
The truth is there everywhere churches schools,Law enforcement, politics, so on.
You can't take the sin out of man.

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102499
03/18/24 09:35 AM
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You are all judging and condemning those that preach the gospel. Please tell me how any of you have done better and are "more" righteous than any mentioned pastor/preacher/evangelist mentioned so far.

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8102536
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
You are all judging and condemning those that preach the gospel. Please tell me how any of you have done better and are "more" righteous than any mentioned pastor/preacher/evangelist mentioned so far.

God gave us the gift of discernment for a reason. If we chose not to listen or use it that's our free will. Why do you think there are so many warnings in the Bible about false teachers? Think God warns us without cause or without explanation that we will be faced with them?

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8102538
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
You are all judging and condemning those that preach the gospel. Please tell me how any of you have done better and are "more" righteous than any mentioned pastor/preacher/evangelist mentioned so far.

The "health wealth and prosperity gospel", "name it and claim it" movement, etc is a shallow works-based Gospel that tells people that if God shows favor to them He'll make them rich and healthy, and that they can perform certain acts to obtain God's favor. Several of them (notably Joel Osteen) don't talk about (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and the consequences of sin and unrepentence.

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102544
03/18/24 10:33 AM
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I Googled it and found at least 54 verses about false teachers/prophet

Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Wolfdog91] #8102549
03/18/24 10:37 AM
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There are quite a few wolves in sheep's clothing out there. Not everyone who has a big church is a con man, however. This is why you should learn scripture for your self instead of just accepting anything someone in a pulpit says.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: Yes sir] #8102552
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Some preachers are there to Sheppard the flock and some are there to fleece it. The signs between the two can be small but obvious if one knows what they need to look for.

Billy Graham was one such preacher, a true man of God.
I remember years ago, a reporter who liked to expose some evangelists went after Mr. Graham. He was shocked by what they found. His clothes, shoes, and suit were bargain basement quality. He didn't drive fancy cars and lived in an average, mediocre style home. In all fairness, they reported it as such.


Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
Re: Kenneth Copeland and others [Re: PAskinner] #8102571
03/18/24 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
There are quite a few wolves in sheep's clothing out there. Not everyone who has a big church is a con man, however. THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD LEARN SCRIPTURE FOR YOUR SELF INSTEAD OF JUST ACCEPTING ANYTHING SOMEONE IN A PULPIT SAYS.




X2 Especially these days


Till that day.....
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