Did he say what he was gonna do with that degree?

Congratulation to your daughter. And to your son the plumber. The trades can be an excellent career path. And there's the real possibility of eventually becoming self-employed if that's something a tradesman desires.

While I agree with everything EdP wrote, I also think that borrowing excessive amounts of money for degrees in Nothing Useful is not solely the government's fault. The students and the parents of those students bear the primary responsibility for making good choices.

I know the federal government has caused college educations to become stupidly expensive and they make borrowing ridiculous amounts of money way too easy. But, the ultimate responsibility lies with those signing on the dotted line.

Thankfully, my children made better choices. One got a degree in International Relations. I was pretty convinced it was a degree in Nothing Useful. But we talked a lot about it and she had a good plan. I trusted her judgement. She now works for the Dept.of State as a Foreign Service Officer and travels the world (on the governments dime) which was her plan all along. It wouldn't have happened without that degree.

My youngest got a permanent layoff from a really good, high-paying job after Coke-Cola shut down the plant where she was in management. She is going to college full-time and will have her Registered Nurse license before too long. A career choice I agree with.

College degrees can be incredibly useful to a persons career path. So can graduating trade school. You just have to make smart choices and put the work in.

I completely agree, but we are seeing that those responsible for bad decisions are not being held accountable for them, and the rest of us taxpayers are picking up the tab, regardless of what the SCOTUS has ruled is legal.

Funny, I was just thinking as I needed some plumbing work, when did I miss plumbers going to school for 8 years then having to pass a bar exam to be able to charge as much or more per hour than
lawyers and even some doctors. Their rates are ridiculous. Of course I did the 2 hours worth of work myself (which I didn't have time to) and saved about $500.

If I had it to do over I would have become a linesman. My best buddies son did that and when he's called away he is making $90 and hour minimum depending on location and state. Electrical and plumbing
are great fields another buddy quit his nursing job to become a plumber and makes more.

That is a direct result of our puppet president advancing his liberal handlers' agenda and buying young people's votes with our tax dollars.

Biden has pushed lots of really stupid stuff and college loan forgiveness is right near the top of that idiotic list. I told my kids I'd disown them if they took advantage of that program.

You agree to pay, you pay, even if you agreed to pay for stupid, waste-of-money-stuff, end of discussion.

My plumber gets $125.00 for the first hour and $105.00 per hour after that. I'm okay with that. As a self-employed general contractor I know what it takes to run a profitable business. There are tons of behind-the-scenes expenses non-business owners don't know about.

That doesn't keep me from busting his chops though. I tell him all the time that, "All you gotta know to be a plumber is that crap flows downhill."

A major college here about 1 hour away , UCONN , offers a degree in puppetry. Yes , a degree in making puppets.
I have actually visited this part of the school by a friend who invited me. Two ajoining buildings on campus totaling about 3,000 square feet. Everything you could think of to make , design , test and use puppets.

Who is going to hire you with a degree in puppetry ?
Disney ? Sesame Street or other TV show ? Hollywood ?
How many of these jobs are available ? How much do they pay ?
Maybe there is a very small handful of people in the top of this field making 100k+ , but I bet they are very few.




Other than that , UCONN has the most badazz ladies basketball team , the lady Huskies. Can't touch them. Geno , their coach runs those girls like a drill sergeant and it shows.

A comparison of what a business charges per hour to what an employer pays an employee per hour is not valid. A self employeed tradesman is charging a business rate, not the hourly pay rate for the tradesman. For large corporations, when overhead, taxes, and benefits were considered, the cost to a business for an employee was generally considered to be about double the hourly pay rate.

Of course the people taking the loans are also to blame, but why should taxpayers have to fund degrees in gender studies? IMO the government shouldn't be funding college education at all.... but if they ARE than they should only offer funding for select degrees... degrees for careers in fields that have a shortage of eligible workers.

You want the government to fund your education? Fine... become an accountant, or a doctor, or an engineer or a teacher or whatever other profession we need more workers in.

You want the government to fund your education in gender studies? Fine. Join the military.

The government shouldn't be funding colleges at all. And tax-payers should never have to pay back anyone's loans. You borrow, you pay back.

wow that's, great, and hvac person, up here can make great money,

The open borders have killed, wage wise, the unlicensed trades like carpenters or masons. Good that she chose a trade that requires a license. If I had it to do again I would have went through an apprenticeship for HVAC other than for carpentry.