China into everything clones
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I don’t think there is a thing China is not knocking off today down to about everything we use in our daily lives. I was looking for a carb for my 024 Sthil chainsaw one place had one for $19 a China clone. They offered many clone cards for different models then a better brand of a China clone $30. A factory Sthil card is almost $100.
A chainsaw parts just seemed like an odd thing to be worth while cloning those parts if you figure how many people don’t own one.
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Re: China into everything clones
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What that is is, a company sends tooling to the chinks to make them under contract, then when that order is filled, the dirty -'s use the tooling to make more for export to the country that the tooling came from in direct competition, seriously undercutting the price of course!. They have NO HONOR at all.
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Re: China into everything clones
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Yep. Went to my local NAPA and grabbed a replacement fuel/water separator cartridge. I didn’t notice until I got looking at the box once home that the text on the box looked odd. It was branded Raycor, but Chinese made. Took it back for refund and found the real item elsewhere. The Racor is made in china on the same production line as the knock off .... same goes for the housing.
Let's go Brandon
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Re: China into everything clones
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What that is is, a company sends tooling to the chinks to make them under contract, then when that order is filled, the dirty SOB's use the tooling to make more for export to the country that the tooling came from in direct competition, seriously undercutting the price of course!. They have NO HONOR at all. Sounds like the companies sending tooling to China should quit doing that and start manufacturing in America instead.
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Re: China into everything clones
[Re: Law Dog]
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03/13/24 05:34 PM
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Taiwan was the original knock off place years back Japan before that for cheap stuff but China is doing it on steroids the way they are going going for total control or to poison the market.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: China into everything clones
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For the most part, they save more on production cost's from china crap than they lose in knock off sales.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: China into everything clones
[Re: Law Dog]
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03/13/24 05:57 PM
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It is a bit of a conundrum. For example
Some manufacturers have brand stuff made in china, then the Chinese do " production overruns' and sell the same things under a slightly different name. As a consumer, should we just buy the knock of stuff?? that way it hurts the brand manufacturer and they may move production back to their home countries?? Or pay extra for the brand name that is the same as the knock off and made in the same factory ??
There is a place in China for example that makes socks. 99% of the socks in the world are made there. They make them for Nike, Adidas, dickies etc. They are all made in the same town in China.
Let's go Brandon
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Re: China into everything clones
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Yep. Went to my local NAPA and grabbed a replacement fuel/water separator cartridge. I didn’t notice until I got looking at the box once home that the text on the box looked odd. It was branded Raycor, but Chinese made. Took it back for refund and found the real item elsewhere. The Racor is made in china on the same production line as the knock off .... same goes for the housing. Yeah, maybe so. There were differences in appearance with the housing and two gaskets. I didn’t want to try an experiment to see if function was the same.
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Re: China into everything clones
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They clone the entire stihl line of saws Not really the entire line, but many of the older models that were some of Stihls best. They clone Husqvarna saws also
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Re: China into everything clones
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03/13/24 06:51 PM
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Most of Bass Pro/Cabelas stuff is made in China now I’d guess under stricter guidelines or supervision.
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Jerry Herbst
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Re: China into everything clones
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Yep. Went to my local NAPA and grabbed a replacement fuel/water separator cartridge. I didn’t notice until I got looking at the box once home that the text on the box looked odd. It was branded Raycor, but Chinese made. Took it back for refund and found the real item elsewhere. The Racor is made in china on the same production line as the knock off .... same goes for the housing. So what you are saying is they are cloning the clones? LOL......I think the days of finding any made in USA stuff at NAPA is over.
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Re: China into everything clones
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What that is is, a company sends tooling to the chinks to make them under contract, then when that order is filled, the dirty SOB's use the tooling to make more for export to the country that the tooling came from in direct competition, seriously undercutting the price of course!. They have NO HONOR at all. If you haven’t figured it out yet this is war, the whole point of war is to win and that’s what they are focused on everything else is secondary, they have been at war with us almost from the opening of the country, sure they are not shooting at us but they are working hard to conquer us by destroying us economically, to that point they steal everything they can and produce it cheaper then the brand can do if for with the purpose of driving the company out of business so they can then take over They have done it with TVs, and refrigerators and any number of other things and our politicians are lined up to sell us out at bargain prices
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: China into everything clones
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03/13/24 09:22 PM
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I know a timber faller who bought a stihl knock off chain saw (a big saw) for a fraction of the real stihl, he ran it all season long and never had a bit of trouble with it. And all the real stihl parts will fit it Wow Well demanding $15 per hour min. ware here dosent help us either
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Re: China into everything clones
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One thing that would make a difference would be to charge an import fee on all products imported from China regardless of where the companies Hq is. Say Gm has parts made in China they pay an import fee. So any company importing even parts pays the import fee
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Re: China into everything clones
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03/13/24 11:06 PM
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Big companies arent allowed to fail anymore in the US. Propped up by the tax payers (via .gov) who then demand a higher wage in order to maintain a lifestyle they are used to. Compainies just pass on the increased expense to the consumer who happens to be the tax payer. Rinse and repeat.. now you have doodads that cost $10x.
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