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The seven year tribulation? #8098872
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Is it biblical?
If so, where is it found in the bible?

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The book of Daniel and also the book of Revelation. If you really desire to understand the book of Revelation and truly wish to understand what is going to occur. Order the book, Revealing Revelation by Amir Tsarfati. A 5th grader can follow his timeline and how he ties all of the scripture together.

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Is it biblical?
If so, where is it found in the bible?

Read Rev. The horseman are there also.

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[quote=Sheepdog1]The book of Daniel and also the book of Revelation. If you really desire to understand the book of Revelation and truly wish to understand what is going to occur.


It is my belief that it was written to show us the way


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There are something like 100 different end time theories, all derived from scripture. Probably a low estimate actually. I don't think we are supposed to know for sure how it's going to happen.
Anyone else lean towards amillennial?


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Rev. 7:14 speaks of great tribulation.

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Originally Posted by PAskinner
There are something like 100 different end time theories, all derived from scripture. Probably a low estimate actually. I don't think we are supposed to know for sure how it's going to happen.
Anyone else lean towards amillennial?

I believe I lean towards Amillennial.
As in I believe the kingdom is hear spiritually.
To enter you must be born again. John 3:5
I don't interpret a 1000 year kingdom.
Or a 7 year tribulation.
I believe the 70th week of Daniel is the last 3.5 years of Jesus life and ministry and the 3.5 years following his resurrection. Being in line with the first 69 week prophecy.
The great tribulation mentioned in Matthew 24:21 I believe is the tribulation endured buy the early church and jews during the years before the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem 70 AD

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Originally Posted by PAskinner
There are something like 100 different end time theories, all derived from scripture. Probably a low estimate actually. I don't think we are supposed to know for sure how it's going to happen.
Anyone else lean towards amillennial?

Originally Posted by PAskinner
There are something like 100 different end time theories, all derived from scripture. Probably a low estimate actually. I don't think we are supposed to know for sure how it's going to happen.
Anyone else lean towards amillennial?

I'm a pan-millennialist....it will all pan-out in the end.


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Every one should be a pan- millenialist.

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Originally Posted by J Staton
Rev. 7:14 speaks of great tribulation.

Yes it does ,
But where is the seven?

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by J Staton
Rev. 7:14 speaks of great tribulation.

Yes it does ,
But where is the seven?


After Rev. before the 14


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Re: The seven year tribulation? [Re: Giant Sage] #8099230
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7 year tribulation is derived from the period of time unaccounted for as described in Daniel.

My question would be - who is it geared for? I would say Israel - or the Jews as they are Gods chosen and have had their eyes darkened. I am a Gentile and believe in the end of the times of the Gentiles and I will be raptured as Thessalonians states prior to the tribulation. I am grafted in but still "reliant" on my rootstock and their sustainer (Jesus).

There will be a great gathering of Jews in Unbelief. What is the 2nd largest location of Jews in the world today? Yep comfortable living in the US has made many reside here. What will displace them? I firmly believe our beloved country will fall from grace in pride as we continue to reject the Saviour, turn to blatant sin, and reject Gods chosen as we turn against Israel.

You ever think our military would usher in over 750,000 palestinians into our country.....happening now....I just wonder what it will take to displace the Jews living in the US.....men awaken, blow the dust off your Bibles and pray your eyes are opened. We live in awesome times and our Lord knocks on hearts today. Some will open and many will reject Him.

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by PAskinner
There are something like 100 different end time theories, all derived from scripture. Probably a low estimate actually. I don't think we are supposed to know for sure how it's going to happen.
Anyone else lean towards amillennial?

I believe I lean towards Amillennial.
As in I believe the kingdom is hear spiritually.
To enter you must be born again. John 3:5
I don't interpret a 1000 year kingdom.
Or a 7 year tribulation.
I believe the 70th week of Daniel is the last 3.5 years of Jesus life and ministry and the 3.5 years following his resurrection. Being in line with the first 69 week prophecy.
The great tribulation mentioned in Matthew 24:21 I believe is the tribulation endured buy the early church and jews during the years before the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem 70 AD


Do you believe then Christ has not yet returned for His bride - the church? You believe wrath has been poured out on which we have seen? Not being argumentative just wondering where your hope then lies?

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Interesting viewpoints. Thanks for ALL of them!
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I am now studying scripture on the great disappearance. (rapture and end of time proficiency) My current position is don't worry about IT but be ready. I do not know if I will walk the vale of death or be caught up. Pray. we are all only one breath away.


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The Tribulation is spoken of in many places, with Revelation being the most detailed and specific to that time period.
The entire teaching of the New Testament is to live ready because we don't know the day; we can know the season for the return of Jesus Christ. I believe in the pre-Tribulational rapture of the church (Christians) before the Tribulation comes. The short version is that the Tribulation is the ending of God's grace dispensation and the beginning of the wrath of God.

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Any guess why everything biblical is subject to interpretation? Requires cross referencing? Why not plain simple language if it is how our lives are to be led? Whats the point of prophecy if its all imagery so that there is no clear meaning?

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I do believe the New covenant is hear.
With the finished work of Christ death burial and resurrection.
Still Gathering his bride, 1000s come to know Christ every day.
I most certainly believe in God's wrath. The distruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD was certainly not the first time God
Judged his Peaple. Being a chosen peaple comes with great responsibility, and accountability.
We as a nation are following in the footsteps of nations in the past that have been Judged.
God used non believers such as The Assyrians , Babylonions and Rome to poor his wrath out on disobedient nations.
I do believe in a catching up .
My understanding is one event a catching up of believers in the last day.
Then judgment.
In Revelation New Jerusalem, a Heavenly Jerusalem descends from heaven
Prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Revelation: 21:2
In vs 21:1it says. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away.;
And there was no more sea.
Yes I do have hope.
In a new heaven and a new earth.
As in the days of Noah .
After the flood Noah released a dove over the waters and it returned to the Ark
When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist he received the Holy spirit, he faced a great flood of rebellion that ultimately sent him back to the father in heaven.
The death burial and resurrection.
When Noah sent the dove out the second time it returned with an olive lief.
When Jesus poured out his spirit ant Pentecost and sent peater and Paul to the Gentiles, he was returning to the father with an olive brach extended.
Noah sent out the dove the third time and it did not return.
This is the first marriage.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said , this is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh---
Vs:24 Therefore shall a man LEAVE his father and mother, and shat cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
As in the days of Noah.

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Originally Posted by Preacherman Les
The Tribulation is spoken of in many places, with Revelation being the most detailed and specific to that time period.
The entire teaching of the New Testament is to live ready because we don't know the day; we can know the season for the return of Jesus Christ. I believe in the pre-Tribulational rapture of the church (Christians) before the Tribulation comes. The short version is that the Tribulation is the ending of God's grace dispensation and the beginning of the wrath of God.

Preacherman you mentioned God's Grace dispensation.
Did this start when Noah found grace in the eyes of the lord?

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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
I do believe the New covenant is hear.
With the finished work of Christ death burial and resurrection.
Still Gathering his bride, 1000s come to know Christ every day.
I most certainly believe in God's wrath. The distruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD was certainly not the first time God
Judged his Peaple. Being a chosen peaple comes with great responsibility, and accountability.
We as a nation are following in the footsteps of nations in the past that have been Judged.
God used non believers such as The Assyrians , Babylonions and Rome to poor his wrath out on disobedient nations.
I do believe in a catching up .
My understanding is one event a catching up of believers in the last day.
Then judgment.
In Revelation New Jerusalem, a Heavenly Jerusalem descends from heaven
Prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Revelation: 21:2
In vs 21:1it says. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away.;
And there was no more sea.
Yes I do have hope.
In a new heaven and a new earth.
As in the days of Noah .
After the flood Noah released a dove over the waters and it returned to the Ark
When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist he received the Holy spirit, he faced a great flood of rebellion that ultimately sent him back to the father in heaven.
The death burial and resurrection.
When Noah sent the dove out the second time it returned with an olive lief.
When Jesus poured out his spirit ant Pentecost and sent peater and Paul to the Gentiles, he was returning to the father with an olive brach extended.
Noah sent out the dove the third time and it did not return.
This is the first marriage.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said , this is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh---
Vs:24 Therefore shall a man LEAVE his father and mother, and shat cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
As in the days of Noah.








As in the days of Noah.
GOD saw the corruption on Earth was great.
GOD brought the Firmament down to flood the Earth & rid the evil.
Thus a new Earth.
In layman's terms with the new worldwide money system coming & the corruption of the deepstate to end, we will be seeing big changes and a new Earth again.
Just as in the days of Noah.

Just my take on how i see it happening. smile


Till that day.....
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