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Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8097676
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Come on keep to the subject at hand. you are throwing out verse after verse that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

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Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: rex123] #8097829
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Originally Posted by rex123
You as usual get stuck on a question you can't prove so you start tossing out verses that have nothing to do with it. No where does it show what you say . And by the way you said the sons of God you quoted from the new testament how does it apply to the old testament?

Rex I see on your heading your reply is to wolf dog.
Is that who you are replying to?

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8097850
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I really don't care at this point . anybody that wants to answer with a real answer. This thread has become old fast . People playing shell games and I don't know why .

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8097895
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Rex, I’m not quite sure what your question is that you’re looking for answers on. The Christmas/Easter thing? Or sons of God?

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Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8097918
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Take your pick one or the other or both. But a real answer not more verses tossed about. If you can.

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8097939
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Some of y'all are way too deep for me in here, but not understanding the question about Easter. We know Jesus was crucified on a Friday during Passover and resurrected 2 days later on Sunday. It would be very odd if the disciples did not commemorate his resurrection in some way in the years after that.


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Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: rex123] #8097941
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Rex,
I replied on you Holiday post. And I thought my reply was in agreement with your conspiracy theary.
I guess I didn't see any questions in your posts exept for wondering why some one uses the new tenement to explain the old.

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: yotetrapper30] #8097985
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Some of y'all are way too deep for me in here, but not understanding the question about Easter. We know Jesus was crucified on a Friday during Passover and resurrected 2 days later on Sunday. It would be very odd if the disciples did not commemorate his resurrection in some way in the years after that.

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Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8097994
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Answering for someone who couldn't find new testament scripture of celebrating the birth of Christ.
Hope this helps.

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8098005
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I thought that it was pretty common knowledge that the church used already celebrated pagan holidays and overlayed Christ centered holidays into those. As such, you get pagan themes mixed in. I could be mistaken, but I believe decorating a Christmas tree with the ball ornaments was a pagan tradition with the balls symbolizing eggs for fertility. Just like the Easter bunny is a symbol of fertility used in the pagan cultures.

I believe there are several modern church traditions that came about to observe/strengthen faith disciplines amongst the members even though they weren’t strictly biblical. If I’m not mistaken, Lent falls into that category. It wasn’t a biblical teaching, but something that the church adopted to strengthen a discipline. I could be way off base on Lent being one, but there are several.

I posted the pages that shaped my understanding of the sons of God. No shell game there. You may disagree, but he’s the one that gave the explanation that made sense to me so I fall into that camp. It happens to be the belief that the sons of God are angelic beings.

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: sportsman94] #8098011
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Originally Posted by sportsman94
I thought that it was pretty common knowledge that the church used already celebrated pagan holidays and overlayed Christ centered holidays into those. As such, you get pagan themes mixed in. I could be mistaken, but I believe decorating a Christmas tree with the ball ornaments was a pagan tradition with the balls symbolizing eggs for fertility. Just like the Easter bunny is a symbol of fertility used in the pagan cultures.

I believe there are several modern church traditions that came about to observe/strengthen faith disciplines amongst the members even though they weren’t strictly biblical. If I’m not mistaken, Lent falls into that category. It wasn’t a biblical teaching, but something that the church adopted to strengthen a discipline. I could be way off base on Lent being one, but there are several.

I posted the pages that shaped my understanding of the sons of God. No shell game there. You may disagree, but he’s the one that gave the explanation that made sense to me so I fall into that camp. It happens to be the belief that the sons of God are angelic beings.

Man is peagon by nature. From Adom until the sinless life of Jesus all have taken of the fruit. We have all taken on a form of godliness in some way.
This is why ( judgment is mine, says the lord).to defy God is to make ourselves a god.
This is peagon.

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Giant Sage] #8098319
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Originally Posted by rex123
Okay seeing has how so many on here like to quote the bible show me one place in the bible where either are mentioned and also where any one in the new testament celebrated them. I did a little looking and it seems as though one of the popes was about to get whacked so he made a deal with the northern tribes The to included some of their celebrations into those of the church .The only mention of decorating a tree is in old testament it says don't be like the heatheans and chop down a tree and hang exact wording not sure hang things from it.

You are corect. About the truditions.
They are pagan by nature.
If there is a conspiracy in the Hollidays.
Then you can trace them back to Constantines conforming religion. The early church of Rome comformed to the peaple and brought in there pagan truditions to promote a church state relationship.
Sound familiar?


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Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: 330-Trapper] #8098343
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SANTA
SATAN -same letters - if you're playing scrabble[/quote]

Funny stuff.

You know Santa is a myth, but saint nick was a real person, correct?


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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We deceive our children telling them obout the Santa and the Bunny
Celebrating our Lord who hates lies and deception.
Mabe we peaple have a scrabble nature. grin

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8098505
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Sorry for not responding sooner Had to work and been pretty sick on top of it. I have to say I agree with a lot of what you say. Taking something for tis then bed.

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Get well soon rex.

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Funny stuff.

You know Santa is a myth, but saint nick was a real person, correct?
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Satan uses anything to take away from Christ

I believe we've gone along with society that we live in sometimes. Not always what we believe inside but to not make waves maybe even in our family...


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Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Giant Sage] #8098576
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
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We deceive our children telling them obout the Santa and the Bunny
Celebrating our Lord who hates lies and deception.
Mabe we peaple have a scrabble nature. grin


I guess that's one way to look at it. But the way I was raised, I associated both Santa and the Easter Bunny as symbols of Christianity.

We weren't Catholic, so I never learned about the origins of St. Nicholas until much later. What I was taught was that Santa and the Easter Bunny brought gifts to children to remind them of the gifts God gave to his children.... namely the birth of Christ, and his death on the cross to save our souls.

Oh how horrid!

Moreover, basically every lesson Jesus taught was given as a parable... which is exactly what the Easter Bunny and Santa are.

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I get your point Yote
I was raised much the same way I may have been being a little facetious.
Also on the parables, maybe with a mix of some fables.
As a kid I wondered what a flying reindeer tasted like.
Maybe there's a fable there somewhere wink

Re: Favorite Bible conspiracies [Re: Wolfdog91] #8098884
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The conspiracy where Haman tried to have the Jews killed is a great story.

And when the Pharisees conspired to have Jesus killed is another great one.

Some good ones in Daniel, too.

Those are some of my favorites.


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None shall take thee
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