Favorite Bible conspiracies

Bible is actually pretty wild in alot of conspiracy theories out of it . If y'all have any what's yalls ?
Mine are generally about the go around nephilim and some modern day stuff regarding cryptids

Who really knows if the Bible is accurate? There's a conspiracy for you.

True. We could be living in a simulation too. We'll never know.

Meds!

Can we talk about leprechauns?

No ra

No rainbow people,,,,,, oh wait…

U have to enlighten me wolfie. I've read all the old testament and been through most of the new and have no idea what your referencing

The Bible is true! The heart of man is dark, sinners need to come to the light.

What he said!

If I remember right their are talked about a little in Genesis,numbers aaannnd Ezekiel? But the deep lore is int Enoch...which is....highly debated , but you go down that rabbit hole and go back and look at other stuff then yeah things get interesting..fallen angels breeding with the daughters of men . Giants , Goliath, refiam ( if I'm spelling that right). I all fairness you going way off into some stuff

if you want to discuss a "conspiracy" about those topics, how about the Nephilim, etc. being "alien" Life Forms.

(NOWHERE in the Bible says that "we" are the only beings that God created in His image)

Ooooo boy I wasn't gonna tough on that but man that a good one !! Deep dived that for a good lil bit

I will sniff out some rabbit holes now and again but I am hesitant to dive so deeply that my (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) is sticking straight up. At that point, I'm sure I would be as situationally aware as an ostrich with its head in the sand.

If any of yall are scart of scary conspiracy theories stay as far as you can from David Paulides books, movies, and YouTube channel because the ol boy dredges up a mess of facts that defy explanations using conventional standards.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Don't look into CERN then boss man that mess with have you SHOOK

While you have breath in your lungs you still have time to come to Jesus and stop all these conspiracy and belive in the only one who can save your soul .

You acting like I can't be saved and wonder about stuff like this.

Waiting for someone to start talking about mud people, edomites, and Jews lol.

Think bigger Angela- much bigger. LOL.

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I had a bad case in Nov 2020 so I incorrectly assumed I'd be immune but I got it again 3 weeks ago and it settled into my lungs as pneumonia and tried to kill me. Like Pete, I'm back at it now. Say hello to him for me.

Giants or the Neph

This is the Hebrew.
Nothing about fallen angels.

An example of a biblical conspiracy theory.

In a nut shell, the Lord was enlightening Isaiah of Judah and Israel conspiring against him.
You can get the context of in in jeremiah Chapter 11

Lets talk about Easter and Christmas.

It's good to wonder and ask questions. And only the lord knows your heart.
I appreciate your questions.
There is alot of messed up doctrine that peaple fallow by following a particular person.
Or strange doctrines that the bible doesn't teach.
If it ain't there it's good to question.

Are those really conspiracies though since those are kinda basically confirmed?

We don't have an actual date for Christ birth or the resurrection.
I would consider then both traditions.
If theres
a Conspiracy I'd say it's the elves taking out stock on Santa Cookies.

Okay seeing has how so many on here like to quote the bible show me one place in the bible where either are mentioned and also where any one in the new testament celebrated them. I did a little looking and it seems as though one of the popes was about to get whacked so he made a deal with the northern tribes To included some of their celebrations into those of the church .The only mention of decorating a tree is in old testament it says don't be like the heatheans and chop down a tree and hang exact wording not sure hang things from it. You said they were confirmed . And I ask by whom . Can't show me where Mark hid Easter eggs or Luke wrapped gifts or any of them for that matter exchanged gifts.

I Mena it wasn't uncomfortable one religion to take and tweak stuff from other religions so it would make conversion easier. " o you guys do this thing in December when y'all do XYZ with a tree ?! Cool...so um. Yeah. Our order and savoir was born around that time and we celebrate stuff too...but we call it Christmas! Pretty similar ! Y'all should check us out"

Also if I remember right Jesus was supposed to be born around tax time right ? And back then that was in like April? Id have to go back and re look at all this stuff

Genesis 6:4 reads as follows: The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

You are corect. About the truditions.
They are pagan by nature.
If there is a conspiracy in the Hollidays.
Then you can trace them back to Constantines conforming religion. The early church of Rome comformed to the peaple and brought in there pagan truditions to promote a church state relationship.
Sound familiar?

You wanted conspiracies. I gave you one how the catholic church controls both sides of christianity and the other follows along like a dog on a leash.

By the way who were the sons of GOD and don't say angels.

Been a lot of hoaxs where giant skeletons were out on display. Every now and then a "giant" shows up due to malfunction in the bodys growth mechanism. I think the tallest human documented was about 8 1/2 feet. Never been any skeletons of any giant race.

John ch 1 : vses 12-13

That's what it says, and the Hebrew says , giants, tyrant, bully. =Nephilim
Do you find somthing different?

Why was the book of Enoc removed?

So how did they get into the old testament and have children with the daughters of men? the verse you showed was from the new testament wasn't it? Enoch wasn't put in the bible because the Catholic church didn't want it there.

Wolfie, glad you brought up this thread. I’ve gone down the rabbit hole of nephilim, aliens, cryptids, etc lately. Been listening to the Haunted Cosmos podcast and reading the genesis 6 conspiracy by Gary Wayne. I’m fascinated by the possibilities, but don’t let my faith hinge on it. If anything, it makes me more awe struck by the Old Testament and think it provides more context to the works people were doing/seeing during that time. Some of these “conspiracies” give me an answer for a lot of things that I’ve always wondered about biblically as well.

I’ve got a theory that’s out there on dinosaurs, but has been something I’ve drawn from my listening reading lately. It’s probably too far out there to even want to get laughed off this site though

Interested?

I would love to hear it.

Gen 4 :26
These are the first.
This is a foreshadow of men following Christ.
Christ means the anointed. More specifically the anointed king.
Lord means ownership. Such as landlord etc.
Sons of God in the new testament represent kings and priest.
Rev1:6 and he hath made us kings and priest.
It's a statement of faith.
It's always been about faith.
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.
Always been about faith in a Savior.
A marriage made in heaven.
Gen 2:23 this is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh:
One in Christ . Sons of God .
I will reply about daughters of men shortly

Daughters of men.

Notice the Lord hath given her a Man .
Earlier in the Genesis story it says there was not yet a man to till the ground.
Adams punishment was cursed ground
And Cane was the first mentioned of a man being a tiller of the ground.
If you know the story of Cane, you know he killed his brother and told the Lord am I my brother's keeper?
I'd say you could count him out as , The sons of God kind.

Now we see two two seeds.
One of followers of God. Fishers of men
And one seed as a selfish nature. Fishers of thyself so to speak.
So when these two yoke together. Produces a messed up child.
Confusion.
Sons of God saw the daughters of men.

Danny I say maybe maybe not. As smart as many of us are, we are treated like mushrooms- kept in the dark and fed a bunch of horse (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman).

The very fact that social media restricts a documentary should make most of my points for me.

The book of Enoch is An apocalyptic style writing. None of the pre flood writings were of an apocalyptic nature besides the flood itself.
Apocalyptic writing because very popular in the Jewish culture before Christ, and continued for some time after Christ.
It would make sense that the Revolation would have been of apocalyptic nature.
From the siege of the first temple until the time of Jesus much of the Scripture was of an apocalyptic nature.
The record of Enochs prophecy that Jude Jameses brother spoke of could have easily been passed down verbally from Enock to Noah and so on.
There is never actually a book of Enoch mentioned in Scripture, old or new testament.
There is also no witness of the book of Enoch. Being dated later than other books of the Canaan.
The author of the book posably could have gotten the prophecy mentioned in Jude right out of judes writings.
That is all I realy know of its absence from the canaan.

Sorry. This slipped my mind , from what I remember the apocrypha was not included in the original Torah or exepted jewish writings. It what adad in when the septuigent was translated.
I may not be write on this. I'm pretty sure this is what I remember from studying about the apocrypha
I do know the apocrypha whas in the kjv for a short period of time until the reformers removed it.
I believe the catholic versions removed the apocrypha after the reformers. Maybee conforming to the pressure of the reformation.

If you are interested in dinosaurs Answers in Genisis on YouTube has some interesting things to say.

The original Book of Enoch was found with the Dead Sea Scrolls. So was the highly fragmented Book of Giants. These Books were found alongside a Book of Isaiah that is 100% word for word accurate of what we read today in our Bibles. At the time, the people reading the Book of Isaiah which speaks in first person of Jesus and His death on the Cross, were also reading those Books. I think it is what they believed. In actuality, nothing in the OT really makes any sense at all except in the Angelic view of Genesis 6. Enoch walked with God and was taken up by Him pre-flood. As Giant Sage pointed out, Jude mentions it as well.

Regarding Genesis, in the Hebrew the Elohim is what is written. Nowhere anywhere else in the Bible is that interpreted as mankind. It always refers to Angels. A direct creation from God (YHWH). Adam was a direct creation from God. So were the angels and also the Nachash. We are the mere descendants from Adam. Not a direct creation from God.

IMO, this is what caused a lot of conflict between the Nachash and Adam. Lucifer saw Adam as a direct threat.
When was the last time ya'll read the Book of Job, the oldest Book in the entire Bible? It's a good read.

This was written by King David several centuries before our Lord and Savior was crucified. It goes on to describe Jesus' death on the cross in great detail around 900 years before it happened. It even starts out with what Jesus said in His last moments on the cross. Most of us are familiar with the 23rd Psalm, but I think the one before it is just as and possibly more important.

How's that for a Bible conspiracy? It predicts the future too?



Psalm 22

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.

3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.

6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

19 But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me.

20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.

21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.

23 Ye that fear the Lord, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.

24 For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.

25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.

26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.

27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

28 For the kingdom is the Lord's: and he is the governor among the nations.

29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.

31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

Guys if you spend your time looking for the uppertaker and then you don't have to worry with these things. Because you won't be here when all bad stuff comes out to consume the world. I know everyone is going to jump on me but I also like learning about these things you should check out the To Every Man Answer raido show. Mike Fabarez is another one you should check out on these things.

Here is another take on the sons of God.





Other biblical “conspiracies” that interest me are that maybe Greek mythology characters are real and that Hercules, Gilgamesh, and Nimrod of the Bible could all be the same person

That youtube video is just another bigfoot tale. A hoax.

When I was a kid there was a tale going around that STP in an automatic transmission would stop it from slipping. Another that putting sugar in a gas tank would wreck an engine. To consistently catch coyotes one needed to be obsessed with scent control. This is the same thing. A story gone viral only without the internet.

I'm curious, is that a bible comintary or a book you are showing?

Its a book called "The Genesis 6 Conspiracy." Written by Gary Wayne who is a Christian that has researched these topics for something like 30 years. He labels himself as a Christian contrarian. He is a guest on several podcasts and gives his thoughts if you want to get the gist of what he believes.

As I said before, I hold onto things like this with an open hand. My faith does not hinge on whether these beliefs are right or wrong. I do find them incredibly interesting though and for me, if true, they only strengthen my belief and help me make sense of things in the world that I previously had no answer for.

Thak you forn the info. You are a true sportsman.

A thread with a title including the words "bible" and "conspiracies" is bound to get pretty wild, so I'm not sure what I'm about to say will make any meaningful difference here. I'll give the Genesis 6 issue a shot anyway...

I think this issue isn't really much of an issue if we understand just a little about the language and just a little about ancient cultures, then we just have to read the narrative. First, let's do language. The word "god" in Hebrew is elohim. It means simply any spiritual being, an inhabitant of the spiritual realm. The Hebrew people (and followers of modern religions that are descended from their ideas) believe that there is one supreme elohim that created and rules all of the other elohim. His name is Yahweh. Many times in the Hebrew bible, Yahweh is simply referred to as Elohim (in English: God with a capital G), sometimes as Yahweh Elohim (the LORD God in English). Other times the word elohim refers to other spirit beings (lowercase g gods). Next, the phrase "sons of" in Hebrew denoted members of a group or class. You see the phrase "the sons of the prophets", and it doesn't mean the prophets' children. It means the prophets followers, acolytes, etc. Similarly, the phrase "sons of god" means spiritual beings - heavenly creatures. (Side note: angel is a Greek word that means messenger; it matches the Hebrew word malakh. An elohim may be a messenger, but not all elohim are. In modern usage, we use angel to denote any spiritual being, but that wasn't the case for the Old Testament at least.)

Second, ancient culture. Warriors and warrior-kings played important roles in the stories of every culture. They were men of renown that were idolized and/or worshiped. Their stories were told around campfires and dinner tables, and they were often immortalized in the stories of the culture. They were also often believed to be demigods - offspring of the gods. This often is what gave the warrior-kings (or their descendants) the right to rule, or made one kingdom better than another (at least its own eyes). Think Hercules, Maui, Imhotep, or anyone else - it was very common.

Now, the narrative. The bible opens with two main problems: the world is without order and empty. God addresses these problems by creating ordered realms (in Genesis 1 days 1-3) and then filling them with inhabitants (days 4-6). On day 4, God creates inhabitants for the realm that is above the skies (or heavens, the Hebrew word is shamayim and it means skies), and those inhabitants are told to rule (under God's authority) in the heavenly realm. The sun, moon, and stars are said to be signs and symbols of this reality. On days 5-6, God creates inhabitants for the realms below the skies, and on day 6, He appoints humans to be the rulers (under His authority) in the realms below the skies. When we get to Genesis 3, we see humans attempting to "become like gods" at the suggestion of a "beast of the field". In other words, they did not "rule over the beast of the field" but instead were ruled by one, and at the same time, they attempted to gain authority in a realm that did not belong to them, namely to "become like gods". The key words to remember from this story are that the woman saw that the fruit was good and took it. In Genesis 6, we have heavenly rulers (sons of god) that saw that the daughters of men were good (often and unfortunately translated "beautiful) and took (again unfortunately "married") them. On day 4 of creation, the heavenly beings were not told to be fruitful and multiply like the inhabitants below the heavens were. They are now, like the humans before, attempting to gain abilities and authority that does not belong to them. We have now matching "fall narratives" or rebellions in the heavenly and earthly realms. The earth was intended to be filled and its inhabitants multiplied under God's authority and with His blessing and abundance. God now looks out and sees that the earth has indeed been filled, but with violence (Gen 6:11), and what has multiplied on the earth is wickedness (Gen 6:5). Thus, God is grieved (Gen 6:6, same word used to describe Adam's and Eve's situation after their rebellion in Gen 3), and He must intervene to cleanse the violence and wickedness from the earth (hence the flood).

What we end up with (among other important things) is an interesting and profound cultural commentary. The thing that Israel's neighboring communities praised and valued (the peace and order provided through the power of violence and bloodshed by mighty demigod warriors of old) is something they view as the grievous consequence of rebellion against God's good order. That rebellious bloodshed requires a good God to intervene with an act of severe judgement. We should not delight in our pax romana, but mourn over it. Its also important to note, just in a literary sense, that these matching rebellions set up the issues that we see throughout the rest of the bible. There are humans that are in rebellion against God, and there are powers in the heavenly places (to use the apostle Paul's words) that are also in rebellion. They will team up and interact in various ways in the Bible. Once you see it, it's everywhere. Start with Genesis 3:15. Finish up in John's Revelation. It's not a conspiracy; it's the reality of this world that the Bible is asking us to see in our everyday lives!

The Bible is a book about conspiracy of and to our fellow man and to our God. One does not have to spend a lot of time finding the ONE we feel is the true conspiracy. We as humans have manipulation and self promotion deeply embedded in our character traits. Even with our conspiracy against our fellow humans and God, God has forgiven us multiple times and with a savior that gives us a path to salvation inspite of the many divergent trails and roads we have taken.

Bryce

You as usual get stuck on a question you can't prove so you start tossing out verses that have nothing to do with it. No where does it show what you say . And by the way you said the sons of God you quoted from the new testament how does it apply to the old testament?

Y'all do know this post isnt here to prove or disprove anything...right ?

Come on keep to the subject at hand. you are throwing out verse after verse that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Rex I see on your heading your reply is to wolf dog.
Is that who you are replying to?

I really don't care at this point . anybody that wants to answer with a real answer. This thread has become old fast . People playing shell games and I don't know why .

Rex, I’m not quite sure what your question is that you’re looking for answers on. The Christmas/Easter thing? Or sons of God?

Take your pick one or the other or both. But a real answer not more verses tossed about. If you can.

Some of y'all are way too deep for me in here, but not understanding the question about Easter. We know Jesus was crucified on a Friday during Passover and resurrected 2 days later on Sunday. It would be very odd if the disciples did not commemorate his resurrection in some way in the years after that.

Rex,
I replied on you Holiday post. And I thought my reply was in agreement with your conspiracy theary.
I guess I didn't see any questions in your posts exept for wondering why some one uses the new tenement to explain the old.

Yote
Do you suppose the disciples may have celebrated the resurrection of Jesus on this day?

Answering for someone who couldn't find new testament scripture of celebrating the birth of Christ.
Hope this helps.

I thought that it was pretty common knowledge that the church used already celebrated pagan holidays and overlayed Christ centered holidays into those. As such, you get pagan themes mixed in. I could be mistaken, but I believe decorating a Christmas tree with the ball ornaments was a pagan tradition with the balls symbolizing eggs for fertility. Just like the Easter bunny is a symbol of fertility used in the pagan cultures.

I believe there are several modern church traditions that came about to observe/strengthen faith disciplines amongst the members even though they weren’t strictly biblical. If I’m not mistaken, Lent falls into that category. It wasn’t a biblical teaching, but something that the church adopted to strengthen a discipline. I could be way off base on Lent being one, but there are several.

I posted the pages that shaped my understanding of the sons of God. No shell game there. You may disagree, but he’s the one that gave the explanation that made sense to me so I fall into that camp. It happens to be the belief that the sons of God are angelic beings.

Man is peagon by nature. From Adom until the sinless life of Jesus all have taken of the fruit. We have all taken on a form of godliness in some way.
This is why ( judgment is mine, says the lord).to defy God is to make ourselves a god.
This is peagon.

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Funny stuff.

You know Santa is a myth, but saint nick was a real person, correct?

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We deceive our children telling them obout the Santa and the Bunny
Celebrating our Lord who hates lies and deception.
Mabe we peaple have a scrabble nature.

Sorry for not responding sooner Had to work and been pretty sick on top of it. I have to say I agree with a lot of what you say. Taking something for tis then bed.

Get well soon rex.

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Funny stuff.

You know Santa is a myth, but saint nick was a real person, correct?
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Satan uses anything to take away from Christ

I believe we've gone along with society that we live in sometimes. Not always what we believe inside but to not make waves maybe even in our family...


Traditions are Strong

I guess that's one way to look at it. But the way I was raised, I associated both Santa and the Easter Bunny as symbols of Christianity.

We weren't Catholic, so I never learned about the origins of St. Nicholas until much later. What I was taught was that Santa and the Easter Bunny brought gifts to children to remind them of the gifts God gave to his children.... namely the birth of Christ, and his death on the cross to save our souls.

Oh how horrid!

Moreover, basically every lesson Jesus taught was given as a parable... which is exactly what the Easter Bunny and Santa are.

I get your point Yote
I was raised much the same way I may have been being a little facetious.
Also on the parables, maybe with a mix of some fables.
As a kid I wondered what a flying reindeer tasted like.
Maybe there's a fable there somewhere

The conspiracy where Haman tried to have the Jews killed is a great story.

And when the Pharisees conspired to have Jesus killed is another great one.

Some good ones in Daniel, too.

Those are some of my favorites.

I don't agree with lying to your kids about Santa, but he's a pretty harmless myth, IMO.
What's important is to explain what Christmas is really about.

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So, for my off the wall theory about dinosaurs. I believe they may not have been animals like we think of. I believe they may have been species of nephilim or something of that sort. The book I’ve quoted is what made the gears start turning. According to the author, In some non biblical ancient texts the equivalent of nephilim (descendants of the aliens, fallen stars, fire gods of heaven, watchers, whatever you want to call them) were described as having long serpent like necks, having a screeching voice, and awful appearances. The thought got going some more when the podcast I mentioned talked about a kind of angel that was described very much in the same way you would describe a dragon. So if the watchers that allegedly came down and bred with daughters of men were this kind of angel then it could be reasonable to expect some of their offspring could have taken on this sort of an appearance. Lastly, the two mentions of dinosaur like creatures in the Bible describe the leviathan and behemoth. No thoughts on the behemoth, but leviathan sure seems like an evil entity to me the way it’s described in Job. This theory would also make sense on why there are no dinosaurs. The flood would have been to destroy the nephilim and their entirely evil ways that they would have corrupted the civilizations they controlled. I haven’t put a ton of thought into it before the last day or two so I’m sure my logic is full of flaws. Yall feel free to go ahead and tell me I’m a lunatic. Won’t hurt my feelings one bit

The bible does speak of unicorns and dragons. No great detail though.

You and I are son the same page. I don't think you are crazy at all, but rather a careful reader that wants to interpret the Word truthfully. Since we are on the same page regarding the 'fallen ones' , here is my take on it.

I do agree that the flood was meant to take out the abominations, but either one or a handful escaped. Gen 6 says the Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also after that. The angels that fell according to Enoch and the Book of Giants not only took earthly women, but their offspring were hybrids. Anyone that has ever studied biology knows that this kind of makes sense; as in the rare case that two different species do produce offspring, then hybridization and large offspring are a common result (mammoth mules, ligers, and tigons for example). My personal thoughts are and is backed up by both Enoch and the Book of Giants, and pretty much the entire OT is that not only did the fallen ones produce monstrosities out of human women, but they also did the same with animals (resulting in dinosaurs), that is why every creeping thing had to be destroyed. The fossil record is all jacked up and although we were taught in school that mammals came way way after dinosaurs, their are mammal-like dinosaurs, bird-like dinosaurs, and reptile-like dinosaurs all described in the fossil record. It really has the evolutionists shaking their heads. The bloodline of man had been corrupted and God was having to deal with a gene pool problem. That is why he only allowed 8 people to survive the flood, Noah and his wife, and their 3 boys and their wives. Some of the Hebrew texts on Gen 6 say that instead of God finding "favor" in Noah it really was his bloodline. His bloodline was still pure and he had not been corrupted. Why God let some of their wives into the Ark, I do not know, but I think that some of the issues came from Ham's wife, but I don't know for sure. Possibly this issues came from all the boys; as the only accounts I can find of Noah's wife is that here name was Naamah. According to Jubilees and Jasher, she was a descendant from Cain, which makes sense. To further complicate things, the Bible in Genesis 4 gives the lineages of both and they have the same dang names, just spelled a little differently. The Bible and other texts don't say much about that other than the fact that these beings were also after the flood as well. The Bible does however repeat multiple times that Ham was the father of Canaan which is the modern day Levant (modern day Israel). We know through Numbers and the OT that there were giants then in that area (Numbers, Goliath, King Og, etc).

The world was very different in the "Days of Noah". Jesus tells us in Matthew that just as the Days of Noah so will it be for the when He returns. There was no rain prior to the flood. The inhabitants then would have had to freaked out the first time they saw rain. The world had to be very different in those days as many paleontologists claim that pterodactyls would not be able to fly in our current atmospheric conditions and also ponder how the brontosaurus was able to survive with the heart size it had and the ability to pump blood to the brain.

I think we live in a much more awesome and supernatural world than what academia gives it credit.

Could it be the unicorn is a strong animal such as an Indian one horned rino?

it seems a Rino could posably fit this description?

Welcome back Chancey,
Hope your outing was fun.
Have you considered this. Let's say that the sons of God are the faithful.
In Genesis one of the seeds is her seed.
Contrary to the serpents seed .
If you consider this as spiritual, an isue of the heart.
Wouldn't her seed ultimatly be the faithful.
And satons seed be a liar and a murderer? Such as Cane
Jesus is a descendant of Seth.
Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: for God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
The serpent seed has already taken her seed by the heal. Through Cane killing the keeper of the sheep.
And God crushes his plans buy blessing Eve the mother of all living with Seth .
The first of Men to call upon the name of the lord.
So in this context consider that Noah was a descendant of Seth. And he walked with God.
So posably he was considered a son of God Through faith.
It say there were Giants after the flood also .
Have you considered that maybe Noah's wife was a Daughter of men.
Posably the corrupt seed came through un equally yoked marriage.
The sons of God saw the daughters of men.
Food for thought.

Chancey, all you said aligns very closely with the thoughts of the author of the book. Unfortunately, I’m not a careful reader and don’t have things like this stick out at me when reading the Bible. Luckily, I do love to explore different theories and find what makes sense to me within the bounds of the concrete parts of my faith. As I read the book, I did go back and read the cited versus for myself to confirm what he said was biblical and to my amazement it was all there. The nephilim did show back up after the flood unexplainably. The author of the book had a couple possible theories including another ark and escape to space. I think the space one puts a pretty neat bow on all the talks of aliens going on today as well as the lore in other cultures where their gods came down in a fiery ball from heaven.

I also buy into the theory that these watchers and/or their offspring had the ability to create hybrid (chimera) beings of war. That would account for unicorns, maybe centaurs, and some of the other mythological creatures that we read about and chalk up to being made up

You are going off in a far rabbit hole there Giant Sage; I've gone down it. I have tried to research it and pray about it, but God has not shown me an answer. I take the Bible very very very literally. I know there is some illusion, metaphores, foreshadowing, etc in it, but for the most part, I take it for what it says. I don't try to make it say something it don't based on other verses.

You are talking about two seeds in Gen 3.......I have struggled with this contradiction for a long time, and maybe some of you can help me; as God has not decided to yet.

In Hebrew, the Nachash (the Serpent) really means the enlightened one or the shiny one. Funny how women fall for shiny objects. Perhaps Eve was seduced sexually by the Nachash and thus we get Cain? I don't know, but if you put it together, it starts making sense. There are two seeds. One of the serpent and the other of man.

The problem I struggle with my thoughts on this is the Bible itself in its contradictions. I hold my faith strong and whenever i find a contradiction in the Bible, I see it as a clue to something greater and more meaningful if you run it down and then it pops together and makes sense. Problem is I have not found yet an answer to this....It's one of the reasons that I read Paul and what his brethren say, but I always compare it to what Jesus says in the Gospels.

Genesis 3: 1-6 and 1 Timothy 2:13-14

The words "could and possibly" is a problem for me Giant Sage. If Moses wanted to call them a rhino, why did he not?
Certainly, he knew the difference. We don't give them as much credit as they deserve IMO.

Slight side note, y'all ever been reading some of the stuff in the Bible and just think " wow all this , and I'm supposed to think it's crazy that there some 9' tall monkey men running around the woods ?"

Seems anytime I bring up that though process it gets some people a lil snippy lol

Like I said, we are on the same page. Real truth is when the Word of God and history and geography slap you in the face! The signs are everywhere from the Gilgal Raphaim, to Poverty Point, LA, to the Serpent Mound in the midwest, to Easter Island, to the Golan Heights, to Gobekli Teppe, and to south America, and Indonesia. Just read the Book "The Last City of the Monkey God" and compare it to the OT in what they found in those lost temples in the rainforest. Everywhere I just mentioned have phallic symbols and statues depicting them. In the OT, when God ordered them to cut down the groves, He was talking about phallic symbols. We have them everywhere in the US. All church steeples are an abomination to God in my opinion. The Washington Monument is another slap in the face to God as far as I'm concerned. Jesus was not even born anytime around December 25th, Contstantine just did that to appease the pagans; same as Easter. Same reason at the time they screwed up our calendar system. There should be thirteen 28 day months. Not 12 screwed up months with problematic dates that change. For example, September (root word Sept) means 7; October (root word Oct) means 8; November (root word Nov means 9), December (root word means 10). Females of pretty much all species cycle on 21-28 day cycles, the moon is on that cycle, and many other things; yet we choose to follow a screwed up system.

Satan is the god of this world. He has deceived many of us; mainly through academia and schooling, and also our churches; which is us.

Here's some fun facts......Did ya'll know that the heads out of Easter Island were actually large bodied individuals? Mind you that Easter Island is a volcanic Island that has no rivers in it to deposit sediment....



Pay careful attention to the hand placement on this statue and also that the ground surrounding it is sedimentary rock; not volcanic.

Here is another one from Gobekli Teppe, Turkey. Look at the hand placement. I can go on and on and on. This kind of stuff is all over our world slapping us in the face!



Gobekli Teppe is an awesome site, but the details of the two are oceans apart. Suggests to me that the people that built these things had the same mind set.

Notice I said could it be and such as, unicorn is a translation from the Hebrew. Mor specifically uni meaning single, and corn meaning horn.

we have many local names for a single tree species

In the end these are not going to count God had things in his his word that belongs to him only and this is not going to help ya.

We are all different personalities and NOBODY knows this better than God. I believe he writes for us all.

I agree with you,
He speak to everyone individually acording to our understanding.

I would argue that some of this stuff matters very much. A lot of the end times stuff warns us not to be deceived by false Messiahs. A lot of these conspiracy things may tie into the end times deception in my opinion. Choose to look into whatever you want. I love learning so I will keep on doing what I can to learn the biblical things most churches wont touch on.

For Gus.
Rev 10 :7 But in the days on the voice of the seventh angel, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

This is a good thing to know that God's Mystery has been fulfilled.