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Shock springs #8094899
03/07/24 11:47 PM
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How many use shock springs for. Coyote traps?pros and cons?

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I put them on Duke 550/650 and a half dozen NO BS extremes. I find that none of these traps need it to hold our coyotes. I do like the way the traps bed when I lay the spring under one of the levers. It sure doesn’t hurt to have them, but I find the deep pad catches of the above traps are sufficient.


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I use them on my 650’s, used them on my #3 victors too, I feel they look good to non trappers when you show them how traps work. As far as the way they work, I find I hold everything even toe caught animals. That can be good and bad. I’m sure that it’s easier on the animals when they first get caught, as far as a big jump or lung. Might tire the animal out faster? Coyotes still have big catch circles though. I guess it’s just a couple more bucks if a trap shows up missing.

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Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8094929
03/08/24 12:24 AM
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Curious what kind y’all are running. The ones I’ve seen you’d need 150# critter to possibly have any use out of them. I don’t see a coyote or bobcat even opening them even a little with a full run, lol.

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JC Conner’s, they have several different springs. After waxing you should hit them with a hammer to break the wax bond. I use his rod swivels too with long j hooks welded closed.

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Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8095364
03/08/24 02:56 PM
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I never saw the need. Short chain with lots of swivels and your good to go.


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Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8095372
03/08/24 03:10 PM
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I have all my #4 double long springs long chained and single staked , with a shock spring in the middle. I like the long chain setup better with the springs.

Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8095400
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Short chains and 3 swivels are your friend.


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Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8095478
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Some of my traps have shock springs, some don't. I'm removing them when season is over. I don't like bedding them. I'm becoming a big fan of short chains and swivels for my style of trapping. Nothing against them, its they just don't match my style or sets.

Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8095482
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Short chains/good swiveling/no live market = NOT NEEDED.


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Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8095572
03/08/24 07:52 PM
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I use appropriate sized JC Conner springs on my wolf specific traps and MB 650s. 28" chains with (4) wolf or MB heavy swivels (welded shut) and a t-bar spring. Anchor ends set up for double rebar staking or attaching up to twin super stakes or 10' chain w/drag. Shock springs are sized to dampen the energy surge timeframe reducing the huge shock forces caused by the animal's lunge at the end of the chain.


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Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8095588
03/08/24 08:13 PM
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When the shock spring is totally expanded what good does it do? Maybe I should be using them on my CRs. LOL


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Re: Shock springs [Re: The Beav] #8095632
03/08/24 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
When the shock spring is totally expanded what good does it do? Maybe I should be using them on my CRs. LOL


If the shock spring is totally expanded the spring has absorbed all the force it is capable of. The shock impulse force has been reduced by slowing acceleration over time. Reduced enough to reduce harm to the animal; maybe, maybe not? But it hasn't caused any greater harm.

If the shock spring is totally expanded, the spring has not been appropriately matched to the size, weight, and strength of the animal.

As for use on CRs, our (Wisconsin) state regulations are pretty specific as to what is permitted in construction. I'm not sure if springs would be allowed or in what configuration; but, it may be a good question to ask the Wisconsin DNR.

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Re: Shock springs [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8095703
03/08/24 10:42 PM
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I’m trying to get set up for live market trapping

Re: Shock springs [Re: wws] #8095704
03/08/24 10:43 PM
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How did you get the bear out of there?

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Well I had my wife with me, so she is not big enough to open a trap, and hot big enough to hold the bear with a catch pole, so we opted to call the department of fish and game and tell them to come get it out. They darted it. I would had been fine if someone was just able to help me with my catch all pole. I normally can handle the cougars fine. A bear likes to roll more.

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I trapped live market fox and coyotes In SC for 12 years. I used 1.65 bridgers with stock chain length with 2 added swivels. I added Inside laminations. I didn't have any buyer complaints.


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Re: Shock springs [Re: wws] #8095839
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Originally Posted by wws
Well I had my wife with me, so she is not big enough to open a trap, and hot big enough to hold the bear with a catch pole, so we opted to call the department of fish and game and tell them to come get it out. They darted it. I would had been fine if someone was just able to help me with my catch all pole. I normally can handle the cougars fine. A bear likes to roll more.

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Re: Shock springs [Re: Rick Johnson] #8095861
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I use the JC Conner shocks and 3 swivels and a split rings attached to a Wolf fang cable anchors. As I have learned from some guys on the forum here is that the sooner you can get the animals out the trap the better.Run traps Early as you can.Sometimes I am finishing up running when the sun is coming up.

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Originally Posted by The Beav
When the shock spring is totally expanded what good does it do? Maybe I should be using them on my CRs. LOL

Shock springs don't expand...they compress.


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