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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: trapperkeck] #8090247
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Originally Posted by trapperkeck
Nebraska's duty to retreat pertains to public places. If someone is in your house, whack'em. In Minnesota, you have to make an attempt to flee your own home, if an intruder breaks in and leaves you an opening to escape. Our CCW instructor maintains, if you shoot an intruder in your home in Minnesota, you better be putting holes in the front and don't stop shooting until the intruder(s) are no longer breathing.


Ive always wondered why anyone but libs live in that state. Now Im even more curious.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090262
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Mn ain't a liberal state!
The Metro area is.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090270
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
A duty to retreat generally means you can’t resort to deadly force in self defense if you can safely retreat if you can safely avoid an imminent danger. If that isn’t an option due to being cornered or pinned down and facing great bodily harm then you may be authorized to use deadly force. The states that have this ruling are Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Maryland, Maine, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island and Wisconsin. I was surprised to see Nebraska and North Dakota on this list. Do you believe in this law? I can see the statement “you may be authorized to use” being a big problem especially in Blue States.


This is exactly why there will be no body.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090281
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If deadly force needs to be used, the decision is made in a split second, in most cases retreat is not an option, it's kill or be killed. How could any state take away a person's right to self defense. Even California isn't that stupid

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: bucksnbears] #8090352
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Mn ain't a liberal state!
The Metro area is.


And doesnt that dictate the rest of the state’s laws?

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: K52] #8090427
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Originally Posted by K52
I had a friend who shot and killed a crazy meth head that had came in his front door from out of the blue. Guy had a butcher knife and Bill center punched him with a 9mm,DRT.
He never left his house to go to the police station or any of the other things people allude to on here all the time. Police chief & sheriff congratulated him for a good shoot.

In Kansas no duty to retreat, constitutional carry, anywhere I can legally be I can defend myself and others if need be. Also no civil liability can be sought against you by the criminals family. No ghetto lottery winners here.


This needs to be 100% nationwide.


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Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090434
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Imminent danger is an odd term to use.. at that point it's too late to retreat, and it's might even be too late to defend yourself with any weapon.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090580
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NY is interesting, according to their CPL, there is 7, I believe, situations where you are allowed to use Deadly force, by anyone. Last time I knew none of that was repealed .,these add on regs seem to contradict the actual written law.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090587
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Defending yourself is a concept not many people can relate to. You have an inherent natural desire not to kill someone. There can be a hesitation just because you don't want to kill someone due to the problems it will cause. You just want them to go away.

When you shoot someone it can be like a bad shot on a deer or any other animal. You actually watch them die. Crying, rolling in agony, jerking and at the end probably gurgling and gasping for breath. Be ready for this and know they are nothing but an animal and at that moment, you are also.

I say this not to deter anyone from defending themselves. I say this to prepare you for what may come so you are mentally ready for what will happen after the bullet leaves the barrel. Aim center mass with at least 2-4 shots then 1-2 in the head. That way you will not have to hear any thing out of the person who underestimated you. You will have blood and brain splatter on you. Ignore that and accept it in the moment. You claim to be physically ready. Accept this paragraph as to what you need to do to be mentally ready. I pray to GOD I NEVER have to kill anyone.

I plan to do everything I can to run away.

I hope I NEVER have to defend myself but I work in the armpit of NC in Greensboro. Crime is rising at an alarming rate. I am physically and mentally ready.

I do worry about the court costs though.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Guss] #8090629
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Originally Posted by Guss
I talk to a guy that lives in Minnesota and you have to runaway or face the law.

if you google Castle Doctrine Minnesota, it says if an intruder is in your home and threatens your life with a gun or weapon, you have the right to shoot them. However, when I took by concealed carry class, the instructor told us MN didn't honor the Castle Doctrine.


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: 2poor] #8090651
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Originally Posted by 2poor
Originally Posted by Mando
You better have the right insurance if you carry. Self defense can cost you a lot of money and grief.


Better option is giving up your life ? What good is that money then ?


This right here.
If you are hashing out if you should or shouldnt defend yourself because of some retatded statute-it is too late for you.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8090669
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
while the WI law doesn't have "Stand your ground" WI law does have "castile doctrine"

WI law also doesn't specifically have a "Duty To Retreat" law either meaning a judge may ask that it be considered in factoring your response to the threat.

and it is outlined in 939.48

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/939/iii/48

the readers digest version
https://www.wicriminaldefense.com/blog/2021/june/wisconsin-stand-your-ground-law/

it is an interesting some of this some of that mix in WI



You better talk to the Milwaukee Police Dept. You have to retreat even if you have to jump out of a window 5 stories up. Heck they arrested an old man in his living room at 3 am in the morning for having a gun in his robe pocket when they were investigating a home burglary across the street and knocked on his door to see if he saw anything. He had to appeal his conviction to the state supreme court and used ago fund me donations to pay for it all otherwise he would have had to sell his home.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090671
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No matter what if someone breaks into my house while I'm home and takes one step towards me they are going to die. Period. No negotiations, no nothing. My boom stick will take care of it. Then I call 911 and fill them in.

If I have to I'll take one for the team. How the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) can you tell someone you can't defend yourself? SCREW THAT.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090672
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WV has stand your ground but the best thing to do is dump the body in a mine vent shaft and let the rats eat the evidence.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: 2poor] #8090718
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Originally Posted by 2poor
Originally Posted by Mando
You better have the right insurance if you carry. Self defense can cost you a lot of money and grief.


Better option is giving up your life ? What good is that money then ?

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8090725
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As I remember from my last CC course you must find every way to avoid the need to shoot in any form of retreat can be made to get out of the situation and only shoot when your life is in real danger there is a definite threat to your life or your going to lose your life in the conflict

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: Tommyran] #8090811
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Originally Posted by Tommyran
No matter what if someone breaks into my house while I'm home and takes one step towards me they are going to die. Period. No negotiations, no nothing. My boom stick will take care of it. Then I call 911 and fill them in.

If I have to I'll take one for the team. Why in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) do liberals tell people they can't defend themselves? SCREW THAT.


Fixed it for you. Remember this come November. There is hope for you yet.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: bowhunter27295] #8090814
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295

Fixed it for you. Remember this come November. There is hope for you yet.


It's not just "liberals" genius. There, fixed it for you.

Re: States that impose you have a duty to retreat [Re: randall brannon] #8090892
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Originally Posted by randall brannon
WV has stand your ground but the best thing to do is dump the body in a mine vent shaft and let the rats eat the evidence.

Or a pig farm.

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