Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/25/24 07:13 PM
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You may have a predetermined spot you like to bed your trap? Maybe offsetting your trap more may help. For just coyote maybe a little further back?
Till that day.....
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/25/24 07:19 PM
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danny clifton
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I like to take the clods and stuff in my sifter and dump them by the hole. Make a little wall with one end by the hole and the other by the junction of the trap lever and jaw. Not over the lever or jaw. Fresh dirt by a hole is natural and they tend not to step on it.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/25/24 08:04 PM
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Danny, so you’re saying you almost make a raised ridge from the hole to the trap lever? I did something similar to that (or a Lucero style dh) the other day. Not sure if it was a grey fox or what, but something completely trampled that dirt mound and made it nearly even with the rest of the ground. Like it went out of its way to walk in the mound versus the nice blended area right beside it.
But I know those greys tend to do funny things so I’ll definitely try the wall method. Normally I scatter the clods all around the pattern
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/25/24 08:12 PM
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danny clifton
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Not almost, exactly that. A pile of dirt. Asa Lenon called it the old indian set. Dwaine Knause showed it to me. Best coyote guiding I'm aware of. My trap is a lot closer to the hole than most advocate. A coyote likes to stick his nose in the hole before he starts digging at whatever is in there. His foot is right behind his nose.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: sportsman94]
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It is common practice at dirt holes for me to cover dirt pattern with surrounding clipped grasses or leaves. Makes stepping area look same.
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: Boone Liane]
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02/26/24 11:59 AM
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Perhaps a change up in smells is in order?
Increase time at the set, get em excited (gets the feet moving).
To many “misses” where coyotes are regularly visiting but maybe not “working” the set would have me re-evaluating the smells I’m using.
As for guiding, crowd em as much as you can. Just about every baited or lured set I make is outside blocked to turn the set into more of a walk thru. I don’t do much guiding outside of that. This^^^
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: sportsman94]
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02/26/24 06:27 PM
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A good size piece of bait solutioned bait, a dh at least 12 inches deep, guide the foot where you want it. If they aren’t digging the hole out the bait is not interesting them. Time of the year matters. Flat sets or post set or urine post set are more effective. I use coyote turds and cow patties to guide the feet. Coyotes don’t step on their turds. Danny’s advice is dead on. If they are coming in and working the side put another trap there. Wised up coyotes are, well wise. They are telling you where they feel comfortable stepping. If they avoid the second trap, your traps are contaminated with something they can smell over the bait. Big baits cover a multitude of sins.
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: Mudcat]
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02/26/24 09:32 PM
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One set Ive made several of but only connected once is a trench. Those dont seem to even get tracks around them for me. I think the one I caught tripped and fell on it. When making a trench set one must make it wide enough for the animal to easily step into it. Some trappers make them too narrow
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: spjones]
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02/27/24 11:03 AM
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Use steel screen,,,, increase’s the “pan”area Yes steel screen, A pencil sized stick on the left side of the trap at a dirt hole, small stone and a turd help on flat sets. Snaring I sometimes block a trail, and sometimes I fill in a gap in the grass or fence with weed stalks
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Re: Blocking/Guiding Coyotes
[Re: Calvin]
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02/27/24 12:01 PM
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The biggest tip I've ever heard (or saw) about how a coyote set should look like comes from the mouth of Robert Wadell. "Just give them one place to step". I think about this on every set I make now.
My stepping guides come by far, mostly, from dirt clods I get from digging the trap bed or digging out the hole. It doesn't have to be big stuff...just some well placed dirt balls. Sticks in the middle of a hay field always look out of play for me.
And stepdowns have never worked for me, either. They love to step on the rim (as you pointed out). I quit using them and don't have any problems catching coyotes without the stepdown set. Step down sets are also a disaster when it rains.
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