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Old History photo # 232 #8079593
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Main Street, Warroad, Mn. circa 1910
Warroad was once one of the largest Ojibwe villages on Lake of the Woods. The Ojibwe fought a long and fierce war against the Sioux for the lake's rice fields. Occupying the prairies of the Red River Valley, the Sioux often invaded the territory by way of the Red and Roseau Rivers, a route that ended at the mouth of the Warroad River. This was the old "war road" from which the river and village derive their name.


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Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8079597
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Interesting history, I hope todays woke culture doesn't hide the fact that native nations fought against each other long before the white man arrived.


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Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8079614
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The Ojibwe were a very aggressive culture and were constantly trying to take anything of value from other tribes. If you had something they wanted, they would kill you and take it. That's how they got all the land around Mille Lacs, by raiding and killing off all the Sioux Villages. They also fought over the Mississippi River corridor and eventually drove the Sioux out onto the great plains by the late 1700's. Then they had control over nearly all of what would become Wisconsin and Minnesota.

Today Warroad is home to more pro hockey players than any other small town. The main industry in town is Marvin Windows.

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you can see the train station in the picture
They offered hunting trips for moose and caribou as there still was some woodland caribou in the area.
That tribe is one of the few that have signed a Treaty with Canada in 1826

Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: BernieB.] #8079672
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
The Ojibwe were a very aggressive culture and were constantly trying to take anything of value from other tribes. If you had something they wanted, they would kill you and take it. That's how they got all the land around Mille Lacs, by raiding and killing off all the Sioux Villages. They also fought over the Mississippi River corridor and eventually drove the Sioux out onto the great plains by the late 1700's. Then they had control over nearly all of what would become Wisconsin and Minnesota.

Today Warroad is home to more pro hockey players than any other small town. The main industry in town is Marvin Windows.

Good points. When the white man is accused of taking the land from the Ojibwe around the MilleLacs area, they fail to mention that it was never the Ojibwe's in the first place. They took it away from the Sioux and drove them into the Dakotas. What the white man did was no different than what they did. The only difference is that they made no reparations to the Sioux as the white man did for them.


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Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8079992
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Who did the Sioux take the area from?

Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: martentrapper] #8080411
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Who did the Sioux take the area from?

other "PEACEFUL" Tribes

"The Arikara arrived by AD 1500, followed by the Cheyenne, Crow, Kiowa and Arapaho. The Lakota (also known as Sioux) arrived from Minnesota in the 18th century and drove out the other tribes, who moved west. They claimed the land, which they called Ȟe Sápa (Black Mountains"


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Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8080489
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A lot of the french Canadians took Ojibwe and Cree wives back in the early days of the fur trade. I have a smidgen of each in my DNA. I was pretty surprised at that result but one great great grandfather was half French Canadian...so there you go.


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Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: beaverpeeler] #8080500
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
A lot of the french Canadians took Ojibwe and Cree wives back in the early days of the fur trade. I have a smidgen of each in my DNA. I was pretty surprised at that result but one great great grandfather was half French Canadian...so there you go.

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Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: beaverpeeler] #8080638
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
A lot of the french Canadians took Ojibwe and Cree wives back in the early days of the fur trade. I have a smidgen of each in my DNA. I was pretty surprised at that result but one great great grandfather was half French Canadian...so there you go.


Most of the mountain men did as well. Quite a few of them had several indian wives.

Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8080916
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My GGgrandad and his bride settled in Cedar Bend township...Warroad area in 1906, around the time the rail came through from Canada around our side of the lake and back into Canada at Baudette/Rainy River....

He had taken a wife of French Canadian/ Metis extraction...and the Metis is Cree at that time up and down and along the Red River of the North to Winnepeg, and at that time it was common to cross the border without much touble back and forth...Warroad natives are all part of the closely related tribes that still inhabit the shores of the lake clear to Kenora all around the lake. Not related...as far as I know to the Red lake natives who are actually transplants from their homeland south side of the great lakes as they were pushed west....nobody wants to admit that though.

My Grandad, born in 1914, knew all the lineages of the natives in Warroad, and grew up there....my GGgrandad brought his good Catholic family of 14 kids with him from the Red River valley, where they were born in the Drayton/Grafton area, some of those kids were off and running without going to Warroad. GGrandad August (Gus) Huerd was 70 when he passed in 1935....Ran the sled dog mail route around the lake as one of his jobs when he settled here amongst other things.


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Awesome History Les


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Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8080957
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The name of what we call a "Canada Goose" aka "WaWa" (as in the store) comes from "Wild Goose or Land of the Big Goose" in Ojibwe. :-)

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Re: Old History photo # 232 [Re: 330-Trapper] #8081035
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great pic, and a good history lesson

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