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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8078536
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I live in rural KS. Everybody knows everybody. They KNEW that man runs his own business and was no more a threat than a blind kitten. They put his life, his families life, my families life, and the other neighbors deliberately in jeopardy. A dozen guys in unmarked vehicles, no uniforms, carrying M-16s, knocked his door open and threw in a big firecracker. I still am amazed no one was killed. When the firecracker went off I almost shot a cop. I thought someone had shot my house. I was using one cops ear for my target when I heard Sheriffs office. I had my front door barely open, lying on my belly behind it. No way I would have missed. They would have killed my whole family. Two other neighbors had grabbed guns also. Would have been real bad.

Absolutely no reason for that nonsense except to play hero with their toys.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8078665
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Anyone remember the flash bang in the crib that happened here in GA. I understand it was repeated recently in a northern state.

Yeah let's protect those so called swat team no knock raids for those funny cigarettes.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079190
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So all the neighbors knew the neighbor was into drugs but never expected the police to show up? Then when they did you was gonna shoot them?
I can say in 56 years I haven’t had my house raided. I haven’t been pulled over because they were bored. I haven’t been charged with a bogus crime. And I haven’t had any reaction with police to whine about. I must be one of the extremely few ones that haven’t based on this thread.

Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: Wanna Be] #8079272
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So all the neighbors knew the neighbor was into drugs but never expected the police to show up? Then when they did you was gonna shoot them?
I can say in 56 years I haven’t had my house raided. I haven’t been pulled over because they were bored. I haven’t been charged with a bogus crime. And I haven’t had any reaction with police to whine about. I must be one of the extremely few ones that haven’t based on this thread.


I haven't been raided but I've had a truck ripped apart on the side of the road for tossing a cigarette out the window. I knew the cop, the local bully who killed two and got away with it.
Another one tried to jack me up on a narcotics charge until a state trooper leaned in and told him that Zantac 75 is not a controlled substance. Another time had a sherrif's deputy proposition the gal I was with at the time. And I once spent nine months in the county lock up on a locked bond thanks to that gal and her sherrif buddies. My only crime, running around with a loose woman. Took the jury all of fifteen minutes to return a not guilty.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079291
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And there's the rub in Wanne Be's reply. Unless you've seen the sausage made you love the sausage makers.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079295
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Wanna Be you shoulda been here. Who in their right mind expects an assault team to show up because an every day guy was smoking marihuana? If you think thats reasonable we live in different worlds.

My exwife took me to court to get her child support lowered. Instead the judge raised it. Few weeks later I got a call cause she was in bar at a neighboring town, drunk, telling people she would pay 5000 to anybody that would put a bullet in me.

I was lying on my bed when my daughter came in and said two guys were in the yard with guns. I figured it was somebody wanting to go coon hunting. I looked out and saw M16's and two guys I didnt recognize in my front yard. I turned the light off, told my wife to call 911 and grabbed my 45. I had not yet seen the other bunch.

There is NO rational explanation for this stuff except knotheads playing with new toys.

When I called the sheriff next day he blamed the county seat chief of police. The chief blamed the sheriff. Whole town was calling and writing letters. They have not done anything that stupid since.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079300
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JMHO But there wasn't any hate for cops , unless you're breaking the law.
Then Obama came along, and just like that from Ferguson on , it was hate all cops!
Strange how crime has gotten worse since Obama!


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079306
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I've never feared cops , no reason to.
Just do as they ask and you're good to go.
I have to agree with the OP that, that cop, was or has problems with his own self!
That's with everyone in any profession , some just don't belong there, while others are great at their jobs.
I don't drink the KOOL AID some people drink and that's their problem , not mine.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079310
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Ohio Wolverine, the story I told had nothing to do with Obama. Was in the 90's.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079311
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I am still waiting for someone to explain that mess in Texas to me I mean an entire police force hid in hallways while little kids cried for help. Yea they were cops but I still think it wasn't training or the job or stress they even say they were just following orders but honestly would you could you just do nothing?

Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079313
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what has changed is cameras


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079377
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Id of had to disobey order's or worse if i was a parent they would of had to shoot me in the back as i ran by the cowards!


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: danny clifton] #8079391
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Ohio Wolverine, the story I told had nothing to do with Obama. Was in the 90's.


Does that really make a difference?
One bad cop makes all cops bad?
There weren't any race riots of any real consequence, until Obama got into office.
COME ON MAN , IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR ME YOU'RE NOT BLACK!
LOL that statement is starting to make sense.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: danny clifton] #8079399
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Wanna Be you shoulda been here. Who in their right mind expects an assault team to show up because an every day guy was smoking marihuana? If you think thats reasonable we live in different worlds.

My exwife took me to court to get her child support lowered. Instead the judge raised it. Few weeks later I got a call cause she was in bar at a neighboring town, drunk, telling people she would pay 5000 to anybody that would put a bullet in me.

I was lying on my bed when my daughter came in and said two guys were in the yard with guns. I figured it was somebody wanting to go coon hunting. I looked out and saw M16's and two guys I didnt recognize in my front yard. I turned the light off, told my wife to call 911 and grabbed my 45. I had not yet seen the other bunch.

There is NO rational explanation for this stuff except knotheads playing with new toys.

When I called the sheriff next day he blamed the county seat chief of police. The chief blamed the sheriff. Whole town was calling and writing letters. They have not done anything that stupid since.

Sorry Danny, this wasn't the post I was referring to.

Even then, you're still here, so explain the outcome.
Did they just start shooting , or ask questions?
As far as I'm concerned , an ex wife can be the most vicious animal on earth.
Especially if you won custody of your children, been there done that.
She could of told them you were holding hostages !


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079409
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
So all the neighbors knew the neighbor was into drugs but never expected the police to show up? Then when they did you was gonna shoot them?
I can say in 56 years I haven’t had my house raided. I haven’t been pulled over because they were bored. I haven’t been charged with a bogus crime. And I haven’t had any reaction with police to whine about. I must be one of the extremely few ones that haven’t based on this thread.


I haven't been raided but I've had a truck ripped apart on the side of the road for tossing a cigarette out the window. I knew the cop, the local bully who killed two and got away with it.
Another one tried to jack me up on a narcotics charge until a state trooper leaned in and told him that Zantac 75 is not a controlled substance. Another time had a sherrif's deputy proposition the gal I was with at the time. And I once spent nine months in the county lock up on a locked bond thanks to that gal and her sherrif buddies. My only crime, running around with a loose woman. Took the jury all of fifteen minutes to return a not guilty.




HUMMM From everything you've posted , it seems you're not very good at judging people's character .
You seem to get into some very sketchy situations .


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079412
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I was young once and dumb. I grew out of being young, lol.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079417
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Originally Posted by warrior
I was young once and dumb. I grew out of being young, lol.


I can relate , wasn't an angel myself, but grew out of it.
Not perfect, but try to keep my nose clean at all times.


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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079424
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All you anti leo just get up off yer arses and go march with your BLM,buddys and chant "defund the po-leese,defund the po-leese"

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Re: This is why many of us are anti LEO [Re: warrior] #8079434
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You ever wonder why some of those folks are marching?

While I'm not defending or BLM I have seen the inside where money buys justice and no money goes down the river.

I've seen lazy cops lie, even caught one on the stand committing perjury in my situation and nothing was done.

Somewhere along the line we've lost the search for truth in what we call justice.


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Like I said , just agree and fight another day.
Not saying there's not corrupt cops or judges , or mayors in mayors court.
Just learn and fight on another day.


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