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No BS Trap Selection HELP #8077355
02/14/24 11:04 PM
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I’m going to be running a line next year for fisher and bobcat specifically. There’s a good chance of coyote also but fisher and bobcat is the focus. I want to get a dozen NO BS traps but I’m torn on which option to go with. I’m definitely going with the k-9 extreme JR but I’m looking for a trap that’s plenty for a cat or coyote but still gonna do it for fisher. I was leaning towards a 4 coil, offset jaw, outside lamination. Does anyone have any opinion or experience on NO BS traps with cats and fisher?

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077399
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I'm tired of releasing cats out of all sizes of no bs traps from the 1.5s to the extremes lol. Can't help ya with the fishers

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8077416
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Can’t help you 1 bit with cats or fishers. But caught several coyotes in No Bs jr 4 coil wire levers. And today. Here is a coyote in = No Bs Extreme K9 4 coil outside laminated.

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Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: steeltraps] #8077420
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Sniperbbb is correct. Lock up is extremely hard and tight. Release ? I have think I will pass ! lol! That’s why I’m doing Depravation work in West Texas

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077604
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drenn, you might want to go with the NO-BS # 1 1/2 size for fisher and the juniors for cats/coyotes. Or if you are not sure just go with the NO-BS #1 1/2s as they are tough for ALL predators.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077643
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I've released plenty of fisher from 1.5 & K9 Extreme Jr's (#2) (unfortunately due to NYS Regs)

You can't go wrong with either. A dozen 1.5 are the best bang for the buck for a tank of a trap for around $100.

They aren't dogless and need tuning before setting, but very nice.


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Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077802
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The k-9 Jr 2 coil is more than capable for everything mentioned. Four coil is maybe a little faster. They 1.5 can so hold everything you mentioned no problem. don't over think it.


If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.


Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #8077851
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Yeah my reasoning for thinking 4 coil is just because of being faster with the added weight of the laminations. Laminations probably aren’t necessary though especially if i do an offset jaw. I’m not trapping for the live market or anything.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: MChewk] #8077854
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Yeah the thing about that is that here in PA, even if i make a fisher set or a bobcat set or a coyote set, there’s as good a chance of me catching any one of them in any of those sets.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077861
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Don't be fooled by all the talk into thinking a 1 1/2 sized trap won't hold a coyote or bobcat. That is simply not the case. When I used 1 1/2 coils for fox years ago they held nearly every coyote that stepped in them. And they were basically stock 2 coiled non-offset traps. Certainly not built like the NoBS 1.5's are today.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077890
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Originally Posted by drenn
Yeah my reasoning for thinking 4 coil is just because of being faster with the added weight of the laminations. Laminations probably aren’t necessary though especially if i do an offset jaw. I’m not trapping for the live market or anything.


I don't agree with this. I would think an offset jaw would be more inclined to be laminated because the the jaws close more than a regular jaw meaning more force being applied to the paw. Offset don't make a trap "paw friendly", that's just what the public prospective of them is so some state require it for that reason. Offset jaws were designed to allow the jaws to close more around the paw, which allows to levers to ride higher on the jaw, and giving you more holding power.

Plus with no BS traps, you save $1 by getting them laminated. The only manufacturer where the "modified" trap is cheaper. If you've ever messed with a NO BS you would see why. It's built like a tank, and the springs are crazy strong. Like they suggest, I wouldn't use one that wasn't laminated.

Like mentioned before, don't over think it. If your someone who worries about the small details and will target multiple species, just get the k-9 extreme Jr laminated 4x4. Then you don't have to worry and stress about the small details you mentioned and you will have more than enough power to hold everything from a fisher to a wolf.


If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.


Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #8077920
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Much appreciated buddy. I just needed some validation probably more than anything. Thank you!

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077940
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Here is my two cents and that's about what it's worth laugh

Go with the 4 coiled, laminated, No BS Extreme JRs and order the optional spring spacers. You really don't need 4 coils for fisher or bobcat! 2 coils will hold coyote too, the No BS have super lock-up. Talk with Kendall and have the spacers installed in place of the springs and have the springs shipped with your traps or replace the springs with the spacers yourself. Having the second set of springs you can always 4 coil if the need arises.

If you choose wire levers, then you don't have an option.


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Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077948
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I would go with the wire lever jrs. Used them this year and so did my daughter. Very easy to set even for her shes 12. They will hold whatever gets between the jaws. Also a little lighter than the solid steel lever models.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8077965
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^^^^^^ I am a fan of wire levers in our northern climates.


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Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: The hammer] #8078102
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That’s a good call I like the wire lever idea.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8079386
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I just converted my Extremes to 2 coil. They fire better and pan tension is lighter. Wax them for sure.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: Seek] #8079674
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Originally Posted by Seek
I just converted my Extremes to 2 coil. They fire better and pan tension is lighter. Wax them for sure.

OK. Wait a minute. HOW does removing the springs make it fire better??? I get. Making it have lighter pan tension.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: drenn] #8079747
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I'll stay with my 550 and 650.

Re: No BS Trap Selection HELP [Re: steeltraps] #8080784
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Steel, I get a more manageable pan tension when I take the loose jaw springs off. I might move my fixed jaw springs over to the loose jaw side. Like KO has.

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