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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077923
02/15/24 01:09 PM
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Neuter or neutralize?

Kind of reminds me of years ago at a Washington Trappers Rendezvous, a very knowledgeable, and legendary old coyote trapper (Jim Skoggins) was giving a demo on coyote trapping.

A person in the audience asked him if he ever caught incidental cougars in coyote traps, and if he did, how did he tranquilize them. Jim replied; "Yes, I do occasionally catch them, and I tranquilize them with a 30-06."


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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077925
02/15/24 01:12 PM
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Some AR people are dedicated to the cause no matter how crazy it might be. We have a bird lady that shows up at our game department public meetings to try to stop or restrict forms of hunting or trapping.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077926
02/15/24 01:13 PM
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get a blue heeler problem solved.


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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077928
02/15/24 01:20 PM
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Maybe this is our answer to illegal immigration.


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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Hydropillar] #8077929
02/15/24 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydropillar
get a blue heeler problem solved.

Or a west Siberian laika. The guy I got my laika from warned me; "laikas view house cats as game". Boy was he right.


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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077935
02/15/24 01:28 PM
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My mountain cur was rough on cats. If they didn't beat him to the tree...

Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077942
02/15/24 01:47 PM
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Any cat outside a couple hundred yards of an acreage around here gets the SSS treatment. Invasive species no different than Asian carp, snakehead, or any other creature we have here. Feral anything is not conducive to our native species.


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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: KeithC] #8077945
02/15/24 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Dillon Benda
I know this comes up occasionally and people get angry about it. It seems like from a long term biological perspective a spayed cat has the same effect as a dead cat. The general public is never going to support large scale killing of cats but a spay and neuter program could accomplish the same goal.


That's not true. A dead cat does not kill anymore. A live cat can kill for an average of 15 years still.

I do agree that much of the general public is not ok with killing feral cats.

Keith

They kill a lot more than mice. Rabbits, grouse, snipe, doves, quail, pheasants, Chukars, turkey's , partridges, muskrats, Prairie chickens, squirrels, both adults and babies, particularly the young.

Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077947
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I'd be interested how this is working where they been doing it? I doubt it's a very effective program where the population is a problem especially when u figure in the cost. Looks good on paper but I doubt the results accomplish the goal.

Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077955
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Some AR people are dedicated to the cause no matter how crazy it might be. We have a bird lady that shows up at our game department public meetings to try to stop or restrict forms of hunting or trapping.

This is a religion/hobby/passion for a lot of those people. Through past history many cultures and religions have deified and worshipped animals. Hindu's, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, It's not surprising that people in the U.S. have a religious fervor developing called "Animal Rights". People in past history have always formed some level of animal "Worship", read about the Golden Calf in the bible and that goes back thousands of years.

Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077959
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Every where I've been trapping there are field lions and free roaming dogs. You learn to deal with them.

Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Yes sir] #8077975
02/15/24 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I'd be interested how this is working where they been doing it? I doubt it's a very effective program where the population is a problem especially when u figure in the cost. Looks good on paper but I doubt the results accomplish the goal.



I’d guess the goal in the end is to give them human like rights down the road in time no matter what their killing situation is the AR folks don’t care about reality really they are very single focused for a cause. When the tail bounty started here in SD the argument was the raccoons were OK but pheasants were the invasive species even though they are a huge part of our economy and coons are listed as a varmint. It’s thought that raccoons migrated to SD like the possum did making both an invasive species if you look at it that way.

Now if you posted a successful days group pheasant hunt I’m sure their response would be different then. LOL


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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077976
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My GSD just heard me say CAT; wakes him up out of even in a deep sleep. wink

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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: cbat] #8077978
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Originally Posted by cbat
Maybe this is our answer to illegal immigration.


We're gonna need lots of dogs then.


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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Tom Fisher] #8077980
02/15/24 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Fisher
Every where I've been trapping there are field lions and free roaming dogs. You learn to deal with them.



That’s a local/regional thing from what I’ve run into MO has a large amount of roaming dogs seeing dogs while hunting is not uncommon. SD you seldom see roaming dogs ever off of the Reservations. They just don’t last long in cattle country if not cared for.

Now cats Ive run into in the most remote places imaginable even the river breaks far from humans see a few on trail cams it’s rather surprising.


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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Getting There] #8077994
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Originally Posted by Getting There
I have to agree with s snow! Treat Cats just like dogs










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Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8077998
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Read about Australia and their feral cat problem..

Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8078008
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With all these Chinese pouring across the southern border there might not be a feral cat problem for long, heck might even be a new market for cat meat. wink

Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: victor#0] #8078009
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Originally Posted by victor#0
With all these Chinese pouring across the southern border there might not be a feral cat problem for long, heck might even be a new market for cat meat. wink


The "other" white meat.

Re: Catch neuter and release cats [Re: Law Dog] #8078082
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I've seen feral cats on the barrier beach 7 miles from the nearest bridge and about 15 to the nearest summer homes...they were in excellent shape and making it on their own...They do get around.

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