Re: Heat pump advantages?
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They have a somewhat limited use range, ie: when it gets too hot or too cold it basically stops working. You will need some kind of supplemental heat or cooling source for those out of range days. They do work well inside that range tho.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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I wouldn't recommend an air exchange heat pump. Bought a house with air exchange heat pump, not living in house yet, thermostat set at 45° . First electric bill was $447 due to emergency heat turning on to heat house. I'm ripping it out and putting LP in. Avg temperature for billing cycle was 20°.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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Need a new furnace and AC...checking into a heat pump but don't know enough about them....lots of sales on new units.
LET ME KNOW it is an air conditioner that heats and cools my parents have one in a well insulated 3 bed ranch about 1500sqft in southern WI it works on the electric till a point then they have a regular gas furnace that takes over. it really can't be your only source of heat unless you are way down south. heat pumps work well as an air conditioner and they work fine while it is still above freezing outside as a reverse air conditioner for heat. you are pumping freon one direction or the other to heat the outside and cool the inside or heat the inside and cool the outside. but once you get below freezing they get less and less efficient and they do not do sub zero at all some have electric coils to heat when it gets below freezing others switch to the gas furnace when below a given temp outside if you like it 70 all the time I guess it does a good job in the spring and fall when it is 45-50 outside my dad wants it 70-72 all the time I will wait till the house is 62-64 and start a fire or if the house gets 77-78 but it will cool off at night I just open windows I have the furnace off since we got out of the sub zero stuff and it was 58 the other morning but 70 after an hour with a fire. swings don't bother me but they make my dad hurt. so just an air conditioner that works in both directions.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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Been installing them for 30years. They cool just like any other unit but with the winters in your area it wouldn’t be my first choice. If you have natural gas stick with that I live and work on the gulf coast of Mississippi and I tell my customers to stick with a furnace if they have natural gas. A furnace is 110V a standard air handler is 220V so there is going to be wiring involved also.If you do your research and the math I think you would be happier with a new furnace.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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I wouldn't recommend an air exchange heat pump. Bought a house with air exchange heat pump, not living in house yet, thermostat set at 45° . First electric bill was $447 due to emergency heat turning on to heat house. I'm ripping it out and putting LP in. Avg temperature for billing cycle was 20°. Might want to talk to an HVAC guy on that, setting it that low is probably panicking your system into going into EM mode.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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I run one, but also have a gas stove and a woodstove as well to keep the strip heaters from kicking in during the low 20's....Saves big $$.
Multiple heat sources are advantageous, both for energy cost and having options for backup heat.
With the heat pumps pay close attention to the seer rating, how well your home is insulated, and the square footage to get the right unit sizing.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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I have one,the highest electric bill i've had was 290.00. but if it's below 20 @ night i start my woodstove. I am pleased with it,here in central Pa.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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You are fortunate to get 25 years out of a unit. A new one should be more efficient than the old one but do not expect to get that many years out of the new one. If you get half of that, you will be doing well.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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My electric bills, back in Nebraska (all electric), during winter with a heat pump were nearly double what my gas/electric bill is here in MN with a gas furnace/water heater/dryer. My HVAC person said, if you live in a warmer climate, where it rarely gets below freezing in the winter, heat pump all the way. In colder climates, not so much.
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Re: Heat pump advantages?
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During my 40 years of HVAC experience, I spent the first 20 installing and servicing residential equipment. I probably installed around a hundred air source heat pumps. These were all in west central Wisconsin. I would say that 95% of the people were happy with them. The older people had a hard time getting used to the lower temperature air at the register. We installed units with Air Handlers and electric heater back up as well as heat pumps with gas furnaces. If you install a heat pump with a gas furnace you will have an outdoor thermostat on the low voltage (thermostat) wiring that will switch from the heat pump to the gas furnace when the outside temperature drops below the set point of the outdoor thermostat. We usually set that between 35 to 40 degrees. The efficiency drops off below that temperature. Most of the heat pump thermostats also have an emergency heat switch that allows you to run the gas furnace regardless of the outdoor temperature. I see that you are in Northern Illinois. You should have lots of days where your heat pump would be the primary heat. Most of the heat pumps that we installed were a higher SEER than the standard air conditioner, so the cooling was more economical with the heat pump. We usually upsized the unit by 1/2 ton for heat pumps over what the normal air conditioner sizing called for. That gave a little more heat but the downside to that is sometimes it would cool the home to quickly and not lower the humidity properly. Not all HVAC contractors are proficient in heat pump installation and service. Check around and find one that has experience with heat pumps. I hope this information helps you out a little.
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