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wolves VS dogs #8076258
02/13/24 04:48 PM
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Just did this video. I am convinced that wolves are killing a lot more neighborhood dogs than most people realize would you agree?


Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: BernieB.] #8076263
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Had a guy buy a small acreage and house on my trapline close to town.
Great guy and a gunsmith.Anyway he had a couple big rottwiler type dogs,so I closed my wolf snares in the area of his place.
Wolves run up and down the road into his place and beyond down towards the river,and I usually took one or two each year near there
Anyway,the first year he was there he lost one of his dogs to the wolves,since they started running freely up and down his road.
He got another young dog,similar to his other,and the next winter both of those dogs were taken by the wolves.
I asked him if he was getting any more dogs and he said no-losing them to the wolves was too hard on his and his wives heartstrings.
So I told him I would be installing wolfsnares close to his road,and he said good.I told him if he gets any dogs in the future to let me know and I will close the wolf snares again.
Dont want to accidentally catch Steves dogs.
He is happy when he sees a wolf in the sleigh when I stop in at his place for a coffee.

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Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: BernieB.] #8076271
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There’s a video from a security cam in BC where several wolves come into a place and kill both dogs. The way the wolves approach the dogs is diabolical they appear friendly until they close the distance then get aggressive when in striking range.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: BernieB.] #8076275
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I think I seen a similar video,the poor dog thinks he found a buddy to play with,then suddenly he gets ripped to pieces and body parts scattered around.


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Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: BernieB.] #8076311
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Sounds like he needs bigger dogs...Kangals if he can afford to keep them fed smile

Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: BernieB.] #8076343
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The male Rottweilers I owned were as big or bigger than male Kangals. The bite of a Rottweiler is the strongest of any dog. It may be something other than size that makes the Kangals effective against wolves, perhaps speed and agility. Those spiked wolf collars may make a big difference too.

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NW Wisconsin is plum full of Wolves !

Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: midlander] #8076357
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Originally Posted by midlander
Sounds like he needs bigger dogs...Kangals if he can afford to keep them fed smile


Kangals are the way to go. In Turkey and the Caucus, they won't let a male Kangal breed until he kills two wolves, in 1 fight, by himself. 2 male Kangals have to kill 6 wolves together. Their bite power is 3 1/2 times the bite of a pitbull. Their bite power is 300 psi harder than an African lion. Some of the bigger males weigh over 260 pounds. My male weighs 240 pounds. They are not aggressive, but are very protective.

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Originally Posted by Cheever
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NW Wisconsin is plum full of Wolves !


Ain’t that sick! And God help you if you shoot one!!

Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: BernieB.] #8076373
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What if a guy had a couple of those souped up Kangals and took them for a hike?

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Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: EdP] #8076380
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Originally Posted by EdP
The male Rottweilers I owned were as big or bigger than male Kangals. The bite of a Rottweiler is the strongest of any dog. It may be something other than size that makes the Kangals effective against wolves, perhaps speed and agility. Those spiked wolf collars may make a big difference too.


Ed, them Turkish Kengals have nearly twice the bite force of a Rot, and they are bred to tangle with wolves. If'n youre gonna have a dog in a place like Boco's buddy's place, a Kangal it is....

The real answer is predator control including hunting and trapping seasons...

Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: BernieB.] #8076386
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Hope they have long legs and narrow chest or they will be at a big disadvantage against 10 or 12 hungry wolves here.


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I certainly wasnt suggesting one or two kangals would ward off a dozen wolves...Lol

Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: BvrRetriever] #8076582
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Originally Posted by Cheever
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NW Wisconsin is plum full of Wolves !


Ain’t that sick! And God Bless you if you shoot one!!

Fixed it for you.

Re: wolves VS dogs [Re: 8117 Steve R] #8076647
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Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
What if a guy had a couple of those souped up Kangals and took them for a hike?


Wolves can't afford to get injured. If potential prey seems to dangerous, they leave it alone.

The largest wolf is only half the weight of a Kangal. Kangals weigh more than even dire wolves did. Kangals are much stronger and have much stronger bites than a wolf. My Kangal picks me up off the ground for fun, by spinning down between my legs and standing up. There's not many dogs that can pick up a large adult man.

Keith

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Not much of anything could stand against a pack of wolves, I can't see where any one or group could suggest against that.

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I'm with you on this one Bernie. Too many irresponsible animal owners think they should be able to let their animals run wild with no consequences.
Those domestic animals are running free more than likely are killing or at the very least chasing wild animals, to then complain when a wild animal goes after them is hypocrisy at is best.
Your animals when out in the wild are living by the sword, they can also die by the sword.

Keep them under control and there will be no problems.

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Originally Posted by Dirty D
I'm with you on this one Bernie. Too many irresponsible animal owners think they should be able to let their animals run wild with no consequences.
Those domestic animals are running free more than likely are killing or at the very least chasing wild animals, to then complain when a wild animal goes after them is hypocrisy at is best.
Your animals when out in the wild are living by the sword, they can also die by the sword.

Keep them under control and there will be no problems.



So by keep them under control, you mean don't allow them to hunt? Because it looks like that dog in the picture above was being controlled by its owner's tracking and training collars but I guess that no one told the wolves not to eat that specific dog.


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Kangals are effective at stopping bear predation too.



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