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Re: WI 2024 Spring hearing resolution [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8077091
02/14/24 06:57 PM
02/14/24 06:57 PM
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Voltron, a verbal agreement would be entirely unenforceable. How hard is it to get a signature?

Re: WI 2024 Spring hearing resolution [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8077478
02/15/24 01:20 AM
02/15/24 01:20 AM
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east central WI
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE



I hunt part of Door county in the fall where yes Deer are seen as a definite annoyance and we shoot nearly every one we see during gun season. we have all the tags we could possibly fill and more , access is the issue , the same people that will gripe about deer eating everything all year , say no hunting them on their property.
so we shoot as many as we can but just for too much sanctuary they keep deer numbers higher than they would like.


You just described where I live, mostly private with some public.

Re: WI 2024 Spring hearing resolution [Re: tlguy] #8077651
02/15/24 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tlguy
Voltron, a verbal agreement would be entirely unenforceable. How hard is it to get a signature?


Lots of old-timers (and younger ones) around here don't like signing things. That smacks of lawyers and government involvement. We'd rather trust old school handshakes.

The only result from more and more rules is more and more violations. Willful or otherwise. But perhaps that is what the gov wants.

For you guys complaining about deer numbers, how many are you shooting or having shot off your properties? Hunters can't do a darned thing about deer they can't legally get to. I'd love to shoot 3 or 4 a year, but with most all properties "trophy" only or sanctuary, that doesn't leave much.

Re: WI 2024 Spring hearing resolution [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8077696
02/15/24 09:19 AM
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Oral contracts are enforceable in Wisconsin if they include explicit and definite terms, all the elements of contract formation, and can be performed within one year. If the contract is for longer than one year, it must be in writing. That was just a quick google search. It's as simple as "can you help me with my problem?" and "yea, I can do that". All anyone would have to do is verify that both parties agreed to the services being done. It's just that the DNR wants a paper trail. It's not hard getting a signature, and I would if I were trapping for someone that I didn't know, but when the neighbor calls me when he's calving in the spring saying he's having coyote issues, or there's coon getting into his feed, I would think a verbal contract would be good enough. Get in and get the job done.

Re: WI 2024 Spring hearing resolution [Re: Voltron] #8077794
02/15/24 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Voltron
Oral contracts are enforceable in Wisconsin if they include explicit and definite terms, all the elements of contract formation, and can be performed within one year. If the contract is for longer than one year, it must be in writing. That was just a quick google search. It's as simple as "can you help me with my problem?" and "yea, I can do that". All anyone would have to do is verify that both parties agreed to the services being done. It's just that the DNR wants a paper trail. It's not hard getting a signature, and I would if I were trapping for someone that I didn't know, but when the neighbor calls me when he's calving in the spring saying he's having coyote issues, or there's coon getting into his feed, I would think a verbal contract would be good enough. Get in and get the job done.

that is why when I go out to the farm later to set for the current skunk issue , I am taking a copy of that circling everything dating in till 1/1/2026 have him sign it and calling it good then I have my paper if the DNR should stop.

with less than one warden per county they want the 30 second answer not a call this person or that person to verify.


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Re: WI 2024 Spring hearing resolution [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8078089
02/15/24 05:30 PM
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I agree with you on the extending the season till March 31st, but it seems like having a year round season for coon on all lands (public and private) might only encourage people to shoot coons and let them rot that could have been taken (and used) by us trappers. I've noticed several people like that by me with coyotes on public land.


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