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Trail Camera on set - Refusals #8038209
01/02/24 03:16 PM
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For those experienced guys and trail camera users. I'm playing around with using a trail camera on two sets and have experienced now 2 reds and a coyote going by, clearly noticing the sets, but not working them remotely close. The dirt holes are typical bait, lure, and urine at the set. The three animals have all gone down wind the sets and at most got to within 3-4 ft but them turnaround and move on. The area is private and as far as I know relatively left alone. Obviously, that's not saying the critters have never seen anything though.

I'm interested in hearing some folks thoughts or experiences with similar things. Part of me would like to do a simple flat set with minimal scent now to see if there'd be a difference but I'm kind of committed to see how long until something actually works, works the set... I did refresh scents after 2 days of rain and something digging the one from behind some. (wasn't caught on camera for whatever reason).

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8038230
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Build new sets. Cut back on your odor and blend all sets. Try again.

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8038238
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Are the sets constructed where they will have to turn their back to the camera to work the sets? I believe that can possibly deter them from working a set with a camera on it

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8038471
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I have 5 cell camera that I believe are blackout. Tacticam 2.0. In many of the pictures the coyotes will stare at the camera.

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Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: Archeryguy] #8038524
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Originally Posted by Archeryguy
I have 5 cell camera that I believe are blackout. Tacticam 2.0. In many of the pictures the coyotes will stare at the camera.


Low glow, still has some visible IR light (I have 2)

The coyotes around here can't stand a camera with red IR lights (visible to you), they will leave quick.

I have had better luck if I put them about 8'+ above the ground, does not seem to bother them near as much.

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8038632
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Same here. I have video that starts with a coyote facing away, turns and sees the camera and abouts sets the grass on fire cutting a trail out of sight. Also been my experience that putting them up high - I go 15 feet up - helps a lot with that but I have still had them spook. And I have had it happen with red glow and blackout cameras, so not sure if they can see the blackout glow, hear some high frequency of the camera, see the camera itself or what, but coyotes around here definitely don’t like cameras. I would strongly suspect that the camera is why they did not work the sets. Coyotes may be like electrons - somehow the very act of observing them changes how they act…. Coyotes follow quantum physics, and quantum physics does not always seem rational or even possible.


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Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8075909
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I have a couple supposedly ir invisible cameras and soon as they cut on the coyotes haul (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) out of there! So I guess the company that makes them is a lier because they supposedly are invisible! But I no the coyotes can see them no doubt about it!

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8075937
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How close are your cameras? All mine are backed off a ways I haven’t seen where they’ve “refused” because of a camera. I’ve had them come through and ignore for 2 straight nights, then the third night it’s like they knew the set was there and walked straight to it and got caught. Can’t say I’ve had any stare at the camera either.
BUT…these are just pics and not video.

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8076073
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When the camera interfears with the animal I think it has more to do with sound than the red light. I have daytime animals stare at the camera the same as at night. That click the camera engages probably is what gets them. More confident animals don't seem to worry about it, but when a coyote is already on edge because of the new hole or rock in an area, and new odors, the click probably puts them over the edge.


If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.


Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8076106
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My experience is it can b both the sound and the red light. Never found a LG camera that didn't spook the coyotes at a set. If your going to play with cameras on coyotes you better to it during the off season until you get the kinks worked out and some experience with them. I tried about 6 different cameras before I found a model that some what worked.

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: Yes sir] #8078840
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
I tried about 6 different cameras before I found a model that some what worked.


What is the model?

Mudcat

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8078892
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This particular spot has had a camera on it for years and the year I decided to put traps there , this went from a place to mark to a place they walked right past without stopping.

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This camera has also been in place for years and I have no intention of setting a trap there, lol. As you can see these coyotes don’t seem to have a care about the camera as this is about the fifth picture I got of this group.

P.S. All coyotes in this picture have been harmed.

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: Wanna Be] #8080260
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My camera was about 10 to 15:yards away! As soon as the camera cut on the coyote tuked it's tail and tore outa there! Hasn't been back! I can't hear the camera cut on with my ear next to it! So I no an animal can't hear it yards away

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8080297
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I wonder if a guys put a ELECTRONIC SQUEAKER near the camera set up...would that help offset the noise factor at all?

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: Little chief79] #8080320
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Originally Posted by Little chief79
My camera was about 10 to 15:yards away! As soon as the camera cut on the coyote tuked it's tail and tore outa there! Hasn't been back! I can't hear the camera cut on with my ear next to it! So I no an animal can't hear it yards away

Did u check it during daylight or while dark?

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: Mudcat] #8080342
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Originally Posted by Mudcat
Originally Posted by Yes sir
I tried about 6 different cameras before I found a model that some what worked.


What is the model?

Mudcat

Browning Spec Ops. They got their flaws but they work best

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: Yes sir] #8080363
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I check the traps in the evening I don't go check the camera for 3 or 4 days I don't get close to the camera! I walk by the sets everyday tho

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: Little chief79] #8080370
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Originally Posted by Little chief79
I check the traps in the evening I don't go check the camera for 3 or 4 days I don't get close to the camera! I walk by the sets everyday tho

I was asking if u checked the camera for noise during daylight or during dark? It makes a difference. On some m9dels the noise is on all the night pics/videos and on some its just the first night pic or video

Re: Trail Camera on set - Refusals [Re: DAK] #8080495
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Here’s a cat last night…Spartan camera

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