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Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8069342
02/05/24 08:13 AM
02/05/24 08:13 AM
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I’ve always used Tubari with great results. Quick turnaround and pleasant to deal with. Never lost a fur or had damage or any issues at all.

Re: Best tannery [Re: Average Joe] #8069390
02/05/24 09:28 AM
02/05/24 09:28 AM
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Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Average Joe
For Moyles, hide needs to be properly fleshed and dried, correct? Whereas Sleepy will do fleshing, and even skinning, for a fee of course. I’m not skilled nor have the time to do a full put-up (sorry Boco!), so I have used Sleepy for beaver, muskrat, coyote, otter and gray fox. And will be sending them a coon, grinner, and bobcat this year. Hides are nice and soft when they come back, my only complaint is the ears seem to get flattened and deformed, not sure if that’s me doing something wrong or just the nature of the beast with the tanning process? Curious if anyone has thoughts on this?


You need to rehydrate those ears and reshape them.

Get yourself some "soft spring clamps" like these:

https://www.menards.com/main/p-1444...ntent=2442268&utm_campaign=Tool+Shop

Take a clean rag, soak it good, and squeeze out enough water so it's not sloppy wet. Use a spring clamp to clamp the rag around the flattened ear. Allow to set for overnight.

Next day, remove clamp and rag and see if you can "pry" the ear up and into its normal position. If it's still too stiff, wrap that damp rag around what you have again and clamp, giving it another 12 hours or so.

Once the ear is pliable, take clothes pins and pin the ear so it's standing upright. Another trick is to take a cleaned plastic milk jug and cut the bottom corners to fit into the ear as a form, then clothes pin that in place.

Give it a day or so to dry, and then you should have your ears standing upright.

If they're flopping around or out of position, get a leather needle and some dental floss. Sew the base of the ear into the pelt so the ear stands up.

Maybe you've noticed the lips come back from the tannery stiff and squashed up against the face. Do the same with this area. You shouldn't need to sew these into place.

With a little practice you can make those tanned pelts look real good having the ears standing upright. Also, sew any "big eyes" closer together or holes in the pelt also.




Re: Best tannery [Re: Turtledale] #8069392
02/05/24 09:31 AM
02/05/24 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Sleepy Creek also ruined a bunch of fox on me, never again
I'll pay the money for moyles every time


But will they take green hides? If not that's a problem for the op

Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8069485
02/05/24 12:04 PM
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I have used Moyles for years and last year I sent to Sleepy Creek last year because shipping is much less than sending to Moyles. I won't use Sleepy Creek again. My fox came back with holes and even missing fur. I skinned and stretched the fox, with no holes in them, the day they were caught so I know the problem wasn't on my end. l be going back to Moyles this year and pay the additional few dollars to have my skins done right.


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Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8069489
02/05/24 12:08 PM
02/05/24 12:08 PM
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Look into Kirby Creek in Wyoming, https://kirbycreektannery.com/

Re: Best tannery [Re: Muskrat] #8069965
02/05/24 09:55 PM
02/05/24 09:55 PM
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Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Originally Posted by Average Joe
For Moyles, hide needs to be properly fleshed and dried, correct? Whereas Sleepy will do fleshing, and even skinning, for a fee of course. I’m not skilled nor have the time to do a full put-up (sorry Boco!), so I have used Sleepy for beaver, muskrat, coyote, otter and gray fox. And will be sending them a coon, grinner, and bobcat this year. Hides are nice and soft when they come back, my only complaint is the ears seem to get flattened and deformed, not sure if that’s me doing something wrong or just the nature of the beast with the tanning process? Curious if anyone has thoughts on this?


You need to rehydrate those ears and reshape them.

Get yourself some "soft spring clamps" like these:

https://www.menards.com/main/p-1444...ntent=2442268&utm_campaign=Tool+Shop

Take a clean rag, soak it good, and squeeze out enough water so it's not sloppy wet. Use a spring clamp to clamp the rag around the flattened ear. Allow to set for overnight.

Next day, remove clamp and rag and see if you can "pry" the ear up and into its normal position. If it's still too stiff, wrap that damp rag around what you have again and clamp, giving it another 12 hours or so.

Once the ear is pliable, take clothes pins and pin the ear so it's standing upright. Another trick is to take a cleaned plastic milk jug and cut the bottom corners to fit into the ear as a form, then clothes pin that in place.

Give it a day or so to dry, and then you should have your ears standing upright.

If they're flopping around or out of position, get a leather needle and some dental floss. Sew the base of the ear into the pelt so the ear stands up.

Maybe you've noticed the lips come back from the tannery stiff and squashed up against the face. Do the same with this area. You shouldn't need to sew these into place.

With a little practice you can make those tanned pelts look real good having the ears standing upright. Also, sew any "big eyes" closer together or holes in the pelt also.




Thanks Muskrat! Much appreciated!!


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Re: Best tannery [Re: Tony1967] #8069973
02/05/24 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony1967
I’ve always used Tubari with great results. Quick turnaround and pleasant to deal with. Never lost a fur or had damage or any issues at all.


Have you tried to use them lately ?

I have heard through the scuttlebutt grapevine that Tubari is not currently taking in anymore pelts for tanning
until such time as they move their dressing operation to a new location.

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Last edited by walleyed; 02/06/24 02:07 PM.

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Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8069988
02/05/24 10:22 PM
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Very nice info. I learned something. Thank you


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Re: Best tannery [Re: Providence Farm] #8069996
02/05/24 10:29 PM
02/05/24 10:29 PM
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W NY
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Turtledale
Sleepy Creek also ruined a bunch of fox on me, never again
I'll pay the money for moyles every time


But will they take green hides? If not that's a problem for the op

Sorry read this thread and didn't see him mention that


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Re: Best tannery [Re: walleyed] #8070013
02/05/24 11:00 PM
02/05/24 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by Tony1967
I’ve always used Tubari with great results. Quick turnaround and pleasant to deal with. Never lost a fur or had damage or any issues at all.


Have you tried to use them lately ?

I have heard through the scuttlebutt grapevine that the New Jersey DNR
have shut "Tubari Limited" down due to environmental pollution issues,
and that they are not currently taking in anymore pelts for tanning
until such time as they move their dressing operation to a new location
in order to address those environmental concerns.

w



I haven’t tried yet this year. Hope that’s not the case cause they’ve always done great for me

Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8070067
02/06/24 12:17 AM
02/06/24 12:17 AM
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NORTHERN NJ
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I have been dealing with Tubari for 27 years they are local to me. They are in process of finding a new location there landlord raised the rent thru the roof. The entire crew there have become friends of mine over the years. Most there have known my daughters since they were just out of diapers, and they are now in there 20s. There work has always been exellent for me. And I tan a ton of fur each year. I hope and wish them the best on finding a new place to open up.


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Re: Best tannery [Re: ~ADC~] #8070140
02/06/24 06:26 AM
02/06/24 06:26 AM
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USA MN
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by Golf ball
I’ve sent fur to sleepy creek in Iowa the last couple of years and will do so again this year.


Great place to deal with. They get all my business.

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Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8070255
02/06/24 09:14 AM
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This was copied from Tubari website:

WELCOME TO THE WEBSITE OF TUBARI, LTD!


To All Our Friends, Customers, and Supporters,

As part of dealing with this post-pandemic world and economy, our landlord has decided to increase our rent to a level that we can no longer provide our quality services at our current location.

We are actively in the process of choosing our new home and expect to be set up and operating no later than the 1st week of March 2024, when we will be ready to start processing all your hides from the current season.

We would ask you to contact us prior to sending any shipments until we post our new address on this website.

We wish to greatly thank you for your support and partnership in the past and look forward to working together again in the near future. Wishing you all a healthy and happy holiday season.

Very best regards,

Marc Berman
Tubari LTD
President and CEO

Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8070269
02/06/24 09:33 AM
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Does moyles make leather from salted deer hides or can anyone suggest a tannery that offers that?


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Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8070323
02/06/24 10:56 AM
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Z&L has my vote

Re: Best tannery [Re: C.O. Trapper] #8070472
02/06/24 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by C.O. Trapper
Does moyles make leather from salted deer hides or can anyone suggest a tannery that offers that?


Moyles does not do leather tanning. I think there is a place in Minnesota that does but can’t think of the name right now.


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Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8070481
02/06/24 03:00 PM
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https://clpuber.com/

Century Leather Products in Owatonna is likely the place WissMiss is trying to think of.


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Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8070489
02/06/24 03:08 PM
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Sleepy creek has deer listed on their site. I might try using them this year for one, I've had good results with the other furs from sleepy creek.

Re: Best tannery [Re: Mike Kelly] #8070514
02/06/24 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Kelly
https://clpuber.com/

Century Leather Products in Owatonna is likely the place WissMiss is trying to think of.


Yup, that’s it! Thanks.


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Re: Best tannery [Re: That.darn.coon] #8070526
02/06/24 04:40 PM
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I am sorry to hear that others have had problems with sleepy creek. I’ve only sent about 20 or 25 pieces over the last couple years . All were sent with the intent of using them as wall hangers, not garment items. None the less as far as I could tell they came back perfect.

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