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Bayer- more evil than you may have known. #8058099
01/23/24 01:41 PM
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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058103
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That is insane if it's true. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it is.


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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058164
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ZyclonB? Well known historical fact.


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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058167
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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058255
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If you take a deep dive into almost any company that has had a division that at some point manufactured something that could kill someone...

I practiced asbestos litigation defense for 17 years. It is hands down the most fire retardant natural fiber on earth. But it will kill you. Or it may not. And they used to let people eat it. Bake with it. Use in in tracks that kids ran on at schools. It was in dental mold gum. Lets not forget that it was in everything from floor tiles to insulation to roofing and siding. And before they sold it as America's wonder product... they KNEW it was dangerous. They KNEW it would cause cancer. And when I say they, I don't just mean the companies, I also mean the government.


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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: CJonesFTA] #8058302
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Originally Posted by CJonesFTA
If you take a deep dive into almost any company that has had a division that at some point manufactured something that could kill someone...

I practiced asbestos litigation defense for 17 years. It is hands down the most fire retardant natural fiber on earth. But it will kill you. Or it may not. And they used to let people eat it. Bake with it. Use in in tracks that kids ran on at schools. It was in dental mold gum. Lets not forget that it was in everything from floor tiles to insulation to roofing and siding. And before they sold it as America's wonder product... they KNEW it was dangerous. They KNEW it would cause cancer. And when I say they, I don't just mean the companies, I also mean the government.

I agree with your asbestos argument. I have abatement qualifications, I know the history. That being said, There is quite a difference doing that (still unjustifiable) and doing experiments on people that you know will kill them but just forging ahead anyway using human beings as Ginny pigs, then getting more and doing it over and over. Not to mention the other support from Bayer that was given during the Holocaust.


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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058320
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It was an FDA approved product. FDA approval means it's probably not safe, covid jab anyone? It's FDA approved!

Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058322
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The history of the Tuskegee Experiment was horrible.

With full backing from the PHS and CDC , from 1932 and 1972. They experimented on black men and the syphilis disease. They let them all be sick and many died . They knew there was a cure during that time, but let those black men suffer. The men were never told what was happening to them.

The CDC....was a leading source of this.

Not a few black folks I know are aware of this horrible past from those agencies who were supposed to do no harm. Who used them as guinea pigs .

Is it any wonder why so many don't trust any of these AMA backed agencies as far as they can throw them ? Along with the recent experiments with their approval that is just now coming out on how many thousands of people are irreversibly affected and or died from it.

Just ask any of the surviving relatives from that Tuskegee Experiment and see how they feel about vaccines and shots....


Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058434
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Why should this surprise anyone.

Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058437
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by CJonesFTA
If you take a deep dive into almost any company that has had a division that at some point manufactured something that could kill someone...

I practiced asbestos litigation defense for 17 years. It is hands down the most fire retardant natural fiber on earth. But it will kill you. Or it may not. And they used to let people eat it. Bake with it. Use in in tracks that kids ran on at schools. It was in dental mold gum. Lets not forget that it was in everything from floor tiles to insulation to roofing and siding. And before they sold it as America's wonder product... they KNEW it was dangerous. They KNEW it would cause cancer. And when I say they, I don't just mean the companies, I also mean the government.

I agree with your asbestos argument. I have abatement qualifications, I know the history. That being said, There is quite a difference doing that (still unjustifiable) and doing experiments on people that you know will kill them but just forging ahead anyway using human beings as Ginny pigs, then getting more and doing it over and over. Not to mention the other support from Bayer that was given during the Holocaust.


I’m offended by your spelling of the word Ginny.


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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058552
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Has anyone read the possible side effects for any of the drugs being given to humans? You don't think those side effects where observed and documented in mice do ya ... always several human trails done before release of a pharmaceutical.

No different that the testing done on our service men.


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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8058557
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I had a buddy who was a real big shot in the pharma game. He owned a pile of pharmacy’s as well as a wholesale side and started one of the first online deals that went real big. He would say “pharmaceuticals are for selling, not for taking”.

Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8059020
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……. I also believe before long we will be looking at the food industry just like we do big tobacco and big pharma.

They create an unnatural craving in order to sell more and compete in the market. End users health and well being is not considered.

Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Guss] #8059032
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Originally Posted by Guss
Why should this surprise anyone.


exactly

Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8059086
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by CJonesFTA
If you take a deep dive into almost any company that has had a division that at some point manufactured something that could kill someone...

I practiced asbestos litigation defense for 17 years. It is hands down the most fire retardant natural fiber on earth. But it will kill you. Or it may not. And they used to let people eat it. Bake with it. Use in in tracks that kids ran on at schools. It was in dental mold gum. Lets not forget that it was in everything from floor tiles to insulation to roofing and siding. And before they sold it as America's wonder product... they KNEW it was dangerous. They KNEW it would cause cancer. And when I say they, I don't just mean the companies, I also mean the government.

I agree with your asbestos argument. I have abatement qualifications, I know the history. That being said, There is quite a difference doing that (still unjustifiable) and doing experiments on people that you know will kill them but just forging ahead anyway using human beings as Ginny pigs, then getting more and doing it over and over. Not to mention the other support from Bayer that was given during the Holocaust.


My point was more toward the fact that the government and these companies KNEW that it was a very deadly material and still used it. They knew in 1935, and possibly as far back as 1899 that it was deadly. And it is still not banned in this country. Using humans as guinea pigs is probably a much larger part of the history of this world than is even known. They did it with US Soldiers.


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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8059100
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Now you people know why most Americans do not trust our Government.


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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8059122
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Finster
doing experiments on people that you know will kill them but just forging ahead anyway using human beings as Ginny pigs


I’m offended by your spelling of the word Ginny.


Are you two meaning to refer to pigs of Italian origin,
or to the small rodents that are native to Guinea ? laugh

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Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8059126
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Walleye, I think that term is referenced to guinea pigs enjoying their drinks....being "ginned up" .... just a guess.

Re: Bayer- more evil than you may have known. [Re: Finster] #8059231
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Look up the history of Nestlé. Yes, the chocolate company.
They killed THOUSANDS of babies....


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