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Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8054450
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The installers are back working on it. The exhaust pipe is to small according to the manufacturer. They are also moving the pump from the return side to the supply side. Will see if any of it helps.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: Snyde901] #8054456
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Originally Posted by Snyde901
So the electric boiler was in addition to the fuel oil boiler you had? Did the new boiler work when it was warmer outside?

The new boiler could be faulty, I've installed a lot of boilers without issue but the one for my own garage doesn't work as it should. It's plenty big enough but it will never modulate down, always runs at 100% and can't get the water temp over 120, which works for in floor. It keeps the space at temp but runs more than it should, but gas is free so it doesn't matter. I can get it to modulate by slowing pumps down but that throws my delta T way out of whack. I've had the rep there running diagnostics, replaced gas valve, talked to factory, no resolution, it just doesn't do what it should. They hooked my up with there newer model but it's still sitting in the crate. I'm glad it was mine & not a customers but average person wouldn't know since space temp is satisfied.



Yes,electric boiler worked. We get a better rate from power company with dual fuel.


Yes the new boiler worked when warmer outside.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8054509
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Originally Posted by 1lessdog
The installers are back working on it. The exhaust pipe is to small according to the manufacturer. They are also moving the pump from the return side to the supply side. Will see if any of it helps.

That's going to be invasive. Let us know how you make out.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8054550
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The zone valves are also directional. They have an arrow on the brass body pointing to the direction of the flow of water.


The bitterness of poor quality last a lot longer than the sweetness of low price
Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8054797
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They get you warm today?


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Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8054864
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One zone is up to temp, the other two are still working at coming up. Everything was at 58 degrees for so long it's taking a while to get up to temperature. At least I'm hoping that's the problem.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8055140
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So they got it running on all cylinders?

What was wrong?

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8055226
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Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8055228
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It's. -8 today with 15 mph S wind and its 66 and all zone are calling for heat. I think there all out of options right now.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8055231
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Every time one of those loops calls for heat, the cooler water returning to the boiler brings the boiler temp down. The boiler temp has to rise again. A lot depends on how long those loops are.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: HayDay] #8055232
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Originally Posted by HayDay
So they got it running on all cylinders?

What was wrong?

I'm interested as well.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8055234
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I have 5 zones with one pump and its oil fired. Never have had a problem so seems to me the company that installed your system has some fixing to do. Good Luck and Thanks for keeping us in the other LOOP!


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Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8055842
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With a high of 8 degrees today and 30 mph S wind and all thermostat set at 72 and the highest the house got was 67 degrees.

They know there's a problem, they just don't know what to do.

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Is your house well insulated?


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Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8055915
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there are two setting on the thermostat one is for a slow recovery and the other is for a fast
this controls the speed of the circulating fan as well
sometimes the battery in the wall mounted thermostat is too low and the readings do not go through.

The exhaust port can not have any obstructions within 6 feet or the furnace goes off
or the wind blows right into it as well and ...off she goes ( down turned spout on it ?)

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: Oh Snap] #8055920
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
Is your house well insulated?

Or inadequate baseboard but he said the oil-fired unit kept up fine.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8056037
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Originally Posted by 1lessdog
With a high of 8 degrees today and 30 mph S wind and all thermostat set at 72 and the highest the house got was 67 degrees.

They know there's a problem, they just don't know what to do.

Install a bigger boiler or fire up your electric boiler up to supplement the combi on the colder days. We put bigger boilers in smaller houses here in PA, with the turndown ratios on the condensing boilers oversizing is a non issue.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8056241
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On a bright note at least you’re getting closer to the temperature, I hope they get it fixed.

Re: New furnace is junk. [Re: 1lessdog] #8057925
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The house was built in 1974. We put new windows in 10 yrs ago and they put in blow in insulation. The Fuel oil boiler had no problem keeping up on the coldest days. It could be 20 below zero, with a 30 mph wind and it still kept the house at 70 degrees. They know there's a problem, they just dont know what to do to fix it.

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Originally Posted by 1lessdog
The house was built in 1974. We put new windows in 10 yrs ago and they put in blow in insulation. The Fuel oil boiler had no problem keeping up on the coldest days. It could be 20 below zero, with a 30 mph wind and it still kept the house at 70 degrees. They know there's a problem, they just dont know what to do to fix it.


I hope they figure it out before the cold goes away and tested so you will know for next winter!.

Thanks for the update!

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