Not true, as Lithium is very limited when it's cold. Ranges at zero and below are TINY.

In a world where all forms of energy can be used the EVs can work well in those warmer climates and that is where the majority of our US citizens are either living or moving too, let alone the rest of the world. The idea that these issues are all or nothing really slows progress. As stated in another post, just think of all the fossil fuel and or electric energy being saved by millions workilng at home or remotely and that most likely will continue to grow.

Bryce

Yes that’s the idea behind 15 minute city’s for reducing fossil fuel consumption

People can work remotely, reducing travel


15 minute city’s are the modern day concentration camps

I spent two weeks in Spain over Christmas and I can tell you that there are no electric vehicles and probably never will be in that country other than a rare case of a business fleet. There are millions of people who live in high-rise apartments and most of them park on the street or in designated public parking areas. Gas and diesel are both about $8 a gallon and virtually all cars and even vans and light delivery trucks (there are no pickups) have 4 cylinder diesel motors with overdrive transmissions.

There is no way that any of these people can charge an electric vehicle.

Oh, the moral quandary you would create. That drive an EV to reduce fossils fuels but need fire belching stoves or fossil fuels to make them go. LOL

Would love to see them squirm.

I completely agree that it can be a solution for here or a solution for there and that there are a lot of people who never see 0 or it is a day a year

the issue is with while more than half the nations population in places that never see negative temperatures those representatives apparently don't think about not pushing it as a one national solution and ours aren't bright enough to say , hey wait a second what happens when it gets cold , or get lied to because cold is a relative thing.

there are a lot of issues with electric cars and we like to pick on them and lump them together.

the biggest issue is if you want an electric great understand it and use it but like all sales pitches. Over sold under, delivered always a catch and never told up front.

BE strait , be technical in the issues and what they are and where they are and how they will effect you at what temperature. ect

because when you document it well and with real numbers then you close the door to everyone pointing out every issue you didn't disclose

transparency I believe they call it and the real issue is we are all sick to death of the lack of transparency and the well but that comes in later.


if all parties were fully transparent and everything was up to the consumer to buy in or not and not my tax dollars wasted on an over sold under delivered sales pitch and not someone telling us we are going like it or not.
well there would be no need for push back.

Did I mention that he’s a lawyer? LOL

how do you get anything wet at -20 it is all froze

iced up maybe

gets warm during high current flow then frosts seconds after current flow

that would be an easy enough fix a heat gun to warm the plug and the socket on the car for a couple minutes heck a torch with a metal funnel around it as a wind break

maybe these public charging stations just need a roof and side walls to block the wind a heat lamp on the plug holder

I can see it now , build a pole barn over the charging stations and put chicken lights on the side of each charging station to dry the plugs.

do you know how the EMTs and FIRE are disabling teslas so they don't get run over by a car that doesn't turn off
they have charging plug ends walk up to the car bump the charging port with the plug it opens and when they plug it in the car turns off the power to the motor as to not damage the charging station.

Going into the Tampa Airport they instructed to NOT park an EV in the parking garage. Ask attendant where to park in the lot.

Lithium Ion batteries are so bad when it's cold that you can't even get the car to a charging station. They are highly temperature dependent. If you have 300 miles of range at 70 degrees, your range at -10 is probably more like 15-20 miles. At -30 I doubt if you can get it around the block.

because when they spontaneously combust from a compromised battery they burn so hot they compromise the structure

It's called government control regardless of what kind of climate you live in.
EVs would pretty much put an end to hunting out west in fall or winter no matter how many charging stations are a long the way.
Propane is by far a better alternative than EVs.

It's quite apparent, the governor of Minnesota is a frickin' genius, mandating electric cars based on California ideas.

All the people I know have at least 1 vehicle per legal driver in their household, even counting teenagers 16 or older. Many have more than 1 vehicle per driver. We have 4 vehicles, for the 2 of us, that we use for 3 different purposes. I think EVs are useful for most shorter trips, in decent weather. Their advantage is that their fuel costs are cheap and that the government gives you $7500.00 off your taxes, if you purchase a new one. $7500.00 of my money back is not insubstantial for me. I would not want just an EV, but it would be useful to have one for most of our driving. The high cost of insurance for an EV does knock it's value down some.

Keith

We have 4 vehicles for the two of us, also. Well, to be fair, one is a boat.

I don’t agree with the gov’t mandating certain vehicles. I also don’t agree with the various “facts” that have been made up on this thread.

I have a coworker with an electric vehicle. Guess what, he parks it in his somewhat heated garage. It charges from 0% to 100% for approximately $1.80. Since we are all proponents of the free market, how does this not pencil out? The range in the summer is about 200 miles. I’ll have to ask him about the winter. They generally use it around town and shorter trips. I am curious how this fits into the mantra “EVs are not practical for cold climate areas”?

Just let ppl decide for themselves!

Exactly

Yes!

Keith

Ask him if the battery is heated both when it is plugged in and when it is running.