Re: .22-250 and deer
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Wish it was a legal caliber here in VA. Eric No you don’t. If you can’t see it go down there will be that one trophy deer you loose because it ran. No blood trail. Remember the thread about 243 and lack of blood trail? That problem is 10 fold with a 22 caliber rifle. I didn’t say it won’t kill one. 22 lr killed ton of deer. I bet gentleman killing truck loads of caribou is shooting them where he can see 300-500 yards Yes, pretty much all out in the open, but what difference does that make when they fall dead within 10 yards? Most one step. And I'm talking a hundred or so over the last 10 years.
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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Yes, pretty much all out in the open, but what difference does that make when they fall dead within 10 yards? Most one step. And I'm talking a hundred or so over the last 10 years.[/quote] Holy crap, if SteelTraps post didn't stroke jbyrd out, this one should do it. Stick with a 55 soft point, aim for the ribcage and...
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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Nosier has a 60 grain Partition that works good. Yep, but some standard 14 twist barrels don't shoot them well. A standard 55 soft point will work fine with proper rib cage shots. Explain "work fine"
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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Why do it? A larger cartridge kills them deader from more angles.
I can't think of a single reason I'd want to use a .22 caliber for deer.
Jim There something I'm curious about and this post is showing me something interesting
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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Any ethical shot with this cartridge will produce the results you want. Now a 600 yard Texas heart shot, maybe not. But why take that shot in the first place?
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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Why do it? A larger cartridge kills them deader from more angles.
I can't think of a single reason I'd want to use a .22 caliber for deer.
Jim There something I'm curious about and this post is showing me something interesting James is correct. Depends on angles. If your gonna take running shots, a bigger caliber with more horsepower will shine. Nowadays, it appears folks like to just sit in an elevated blind, open a window and shoot a deer. Normally plenty of time to wait for a perfect shot opp. I'm a bigger guy and have shot rifles for 40+ years . I Hate recoil! Made me flinch 40 years ago and still does today. I'd feel more comfortable shooting at an animal at 300 yards with a 22_250 that shoots 4" groups then shoot a .300 mag that shoots 2" groups. Bottom line, a GOOD bullet in .223 cal will work just fine.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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What are you curious about, Wolfdog?
Two exceptions have been raised to what I posted, as good reasons to use a light .22 caliber. Opportunity and recoil. I agree on both.
Danny points out that you might get an opportunity at a deer while only having a .22. If using a .22 centerfire is legal in your state, then go for it. You might think of limiting yourself to broadside shots though.
Bucksnbears says avoiding recoil is a good reason to use a .22-250 or .223--also a valid point. Reaction to recoil is largely involuntary, but I've never felt recoil from any rifle or shotgun when firing at game, even when shooting a .416 Rem Mag, which shoots 400 grain bullets at 2,400 fps.
I'm somewhat sensitive to recoil, though I'd make the opposite choice than Bucks. In Alaska, a .300 WM was my rifle when hunting deer. I can shoot about twenty rounds from that rifle before I begin to flinch uncontrollably, and it's time to put it away. I can only get half a dozen good shots from the .416.
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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Nosier has a 60 grain Partition that works good. Yep, but some standard 14 twist barrels don't shoot them well. A standard 55 soft point will work fine with proper rib cage shots. the 60 gr. partition was developed to shoot in 12 twist 222/223 and 14 twist 22-250's, it is the same length as most 55 gr soft points, length of the bullet is what determines the twist needed not weight. Same with the nosler 64 gr. bonded, and 64 gr winchester power points. all are exceptable 22 cal. deer bullets
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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Personally, I don't see the fascination with using barely enough gun, that you need certain angles and perfect shots on the intended animal.
Wolfy, use your 17 for rats and mice, this one for the coyotes and get you a better suited gun for Deer/hogs. I doubt you've shot very many or you wouldn't be asking so error on the larger side. ^^^^ This. My Wife has access to all my rifles, but when she goes out to kill deer these days, she wants to use the .300 WSM or the.300 WM. There’s a 6.5 Creedmore, a .250 Savage, a .308, a 30-30, and a .243 in the safe, but she wants one of the magnums. When I asked her why she liked those guns, I thought maybe it was because of optics on them. No, she said because when I shoot deer with them, they fall over where they were standing. While she’s never gonna write a gun column for Outdoor Life or Field and Stream, I can’t argue with her reasoning.
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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no matter what gun you choose somebody wont like it.
my favorite deer gun is my old 270
i have killed deer with a pile of others though. including 22 250. just dont use those bullets designed to kill coyotes
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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P.S. dont have a short mag but 300 wm kills em just fine.
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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I have a Win 70 .22-250, I think its a late 1960s rifle. Its my back up or for something different. I hand loaded a 70 grain Sierra semi-spitzer. Shot white-tails busting them out of CRP grass. None of them went any distance. I think a 70 grain is about as heavy of a bullet out of a .22-250.
I've shot far more running deer than standing still but mostly with a .30 cal. You post up first and last hour or so of light. The rest of the day we used to push "cover" such as dried up sloughs, CRP grass, or shelterbelts (that's our trees for you forest dwellers). Sort of like hunting pheasants but without dogs.
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Re: .22-250 and deer
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PS. When I said VMax were junk I meant for coyotes. Too much sewing. Ballistic tips USUALLY cause less. I dont think any bullet is a perfect fur bullet.
Neither are good deer bullets. Need bullets not designed to come apart inside a coyote
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