Re: 280 or 330?
[Re: bfisch]
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12/03/23 05:23 PM
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Hate Bridger con's. Belisle all the way.
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Re: 280 or 330?
[Re: bfisch]
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12/03/23 06:33 PM
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X3. I’ll take belisle over any other brands. I also have zero complaints about the savageau traps. The 2001-8 is a perfect wolverine specific trap IMO. I just prefer belisle for their triggers and the compact size allows me to fit more in my trap bag.
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Re: 280 or 330?
[Re: bfisch]
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12/04/23 11:03 AM
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Thanks everyone! Now should I go with Belisle or Bridger? From experience, Bridgers will kill wolverine and lynx. Maybe somebody can explain what's wrong with them?
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Re: 280 or 330?
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12/05/23 12:28 PM
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Thanks everyone! Now should I go with Belisle or Bridger? From experience, Bridgers will kill wolverine and lynx. Maybe somebody can explain what's wrong with them? Not made in Canada.
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Re: 280 or 330?
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12/05/23 02:16 PM
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How limited on funds are you? I personally don't like the Belisle safeties because I set the traps by hand and with both hands on the springs I can just tilt the trap or give it a little flip and put the safeties of the other brands on. But I know I am an outlier on that and pretty near everyone else prefers the Belisle safeties. If you are limited on funds the Bridgers will catch everything just fine, just not as user friendly as some of the other brands. I haven't used their 330s but I believe they have small spring eyes like the other Bridger conis that can be a pain when setting. If you are limited on funds the Duke 330s are not a bad trap to use as long as you don't mind a rectangular trap that is a different size than all other brand 330s. I only use them for beaver and otter, so it doesn't bother me, but they may not fit right in boxes made for other brands. The Bridger 330 has large spring eye openings so no issues there. Nothing like the small eye openings on their 110's and 120's which are a total pain in the rear.
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Re: 280 or 330?
[Re: bfisch]
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12/05/23 08:15 PM
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Well I ordered six Belisle 330s. Undecided on buckets vs boxes. I have a lot of scrap lumber and not very many buckets on hand. May try both and see what I like.
Thanks everyone for the input!
Last edited by bfisch; 12/05/23 08:15 PM.
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Re: 280 or 330?
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12/08/23 08:05 PM
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Just can't go wrong with Belisle 330's if you are buying bodygrips for wolverine.
That said, Caught 4 wolverine so far this season, even split between 280's and 330's. We don't usually set 280's on purpose targeting wolverine except on "pole" type sets sometimes, and I have a hard time imagining an advantage to a 280 over a 330 in almost any situation for wolverine. However, have quite a lot of 280's set on trails in blind sets for otter and picked up two bonus wolverine in those so far this season (30 otter so far also). Both dispatched quickly. It's a lot like catching otter in a 220. Using a slightly undersized trap tends to insure perfect strikes right behind the head if you can still get the critter to go in. My 280s are mostly pretty old, cheap ones, at this point for that matter. Have maybe two dozen 330s set for wolverine right now, mostly belisles but a few Bridgers. The Bridgers are much newer and significantly stronger. I GROSSLY prefer the belisles and it has nothing to do with killing effectiveness. They are just better traps. Killing effectiveness is mostly strike placement which is just a combination of trigger configuration and then factors mostly outside of your control. The only reason I don't own 300 belisles 280's and 330's and instead mostly own dukes and bridgers is the same reason as everyone else. They are cheap. (and used to be even cheaper) Bought 4 doz of the Bridger 330s for an absolutely ridiculous price years after I had decided I grossly preferred the Belisles. heh. That said I will reiterate that cheap traps kill stuff just fine, the issue isn't with spring strength at all in my experience.The Belisles are made with much better steel, and hold up markedly better over the years (this is why if I could go back in time 20 years I would probably only buy them), the safeties are better, and they are MUCH easier to set with my hands. I do not carry setters of any sort and have set and taken critters out of thousands of big conibears with just my hands. The fact that Belisles simultaneously easily pass over the center hinge but also do not ever jump around the corners is just SO SO SO SO nice. Wasted 10 minutes the other day with a wolverine in a Bridger 330 and a fair bit of snow because the second spring kept jumping around the corner (due to critter in my way etc) had to unhook the trap from anchor to get critter out.
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Re: 280 or 330?
[Re: bfisch]
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12/08/23 10:02 PM
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That is well worded and even I could understand ,thank you
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Re: 280 or 330?
[Re: bfisch]
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12/25/23 10:12 PM
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I'd go with 330. They open wider plus they are overall a pretty reliable trap if you know how to use them!
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Re: 280 or 330?
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01/17/24 12:23 AM
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I use them both, and have caught both lynx and wolverine in 280s. 330s are easier to set.
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Re: 280 or 330?
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01/17/24 12:33 AM
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Boxes work well; bears like to bust 'em up in the summer, though. I use buckets more than any other set.
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