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Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #7982759
10/30/23 08:04 AM
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Where have you been hiding John. Good to see you back visiting and participating.

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8033633
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South TX! Yeah!!
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Ok, what is S.B.? grin

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8033710
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It’s a powder that preserves

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Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8033938
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Thanks, Steeltraps.

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8047626
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Bob, check and see if you can find a wood worker close to you. Get sawdust from him. I go through a 55gal can of sawdust every month with my woodworking. A by product of milling material to size for furniture, etc. I just haul it out to the woods. You will get it for free. It really makes for a nice work area, Soaks up blood like crazy.

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8047845
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Than you yukonal. I don't know any wood workers personally. I am sure some are around. I just need to put the word out to all the folks I see. I am sure some will have a source.

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8052120
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Bob do you want me to bring you some more to grind?

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8052278
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If I had more storage room John that would be great. Seems to be lots of beaver around this year.

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8052330
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Very True Bob you can never have enough storage.

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8052357
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I hate to expand again at my age and put up another building or buy another cargo container, but you never know.

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8052517
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
Yes, the microbial airborne particulate will cling and penetrate everything it touches. I smell daily as a result of my profession. No getting away from it. At least none I have found in my lifetime.

Yes, the fluids, oil / blood / fatty tissue excretions etc. are all vital parts of that animal's bodily odor. They are integral to a good wholesome meat base bait odor. It is a job to work with in volume, but it turns out some fine material in the end.

The basic meat odors stabilize and the gas off ceases significantly, down to a slight crawl at best, after the aging process has been halted. It is good to leave a little action working in the background. This ensures the odor release continues to bleed out ever so slightly even when exposed to the open-air environment.


Bob, you state, It is good to leave a Little action working in the Background!
I think, I know what this means?
For example. Would this be like a bucket of preserved meat base that has been setting for a month or more and when stirred the base material will sit about 1/2 inch lower in the bucket after being stirred? A five gallon bucket. This might be a little to much action?
I know temperature has an effect on this.

I'm just wondering what a, Little action working in the background looks like? Thanks!!

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8052574
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Mark, in simple terms what you described is an example.

The tricky part is establishing the ratio of bleed that takes place in X amount of volume. " You are " seeing the releasing of trapped volume gas via the stirring or agitation of the product.

The decomposition / break down process continually develops a slow gaseous by product during the aging process. This is evident when the previous bucket volume recedes after a brief stirring. You can't have a more accelerated bleed, or you could have problems with your bottled product.

Some folks find out through experience the hard way about not stabilizing a batch or product effectively.

I bought a small version cement vibrator to use in some batches that is very necessary. I use a 60 qt mixer for all our batches. Typically running at 80% volume capacity.

This way I can run medium and high rotation speeds. However, with that amount of agitation you will infuse a measurable amount of air into those batches.

If I didn't vibrate the batches down it could take several days or more for the air to gradually rise and escape from the batch. The vibrator removes all the trapped air within a few minutes.

It looks like bubbling lava as the trapped air rises to escape and the bubbles break. Once your product volume is pure and air free, it can now be accurately measured, then dumped into buckets for storage or for inventory aging.

Re: Beaver meat grinding day [Re: Bob Jameson] #8052676
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Excellent information Bob, Thank You.

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