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Odd ball 2 1/2 #8044855
01/09/24 07:40 PM
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Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8045187
01/10/24 07:43 AM
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4 1/2 spring on that #3 Newhouse?

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Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8045264
01/10/24 09:56 AM
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Is it me, or do the jaws look like single spring jaws? Only one split jaw post. Looks like a single spring from the factory.

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: k snow] #8045319
01/10/24 11:28 AM
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You’ve got a good eye, I wonder!


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Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: 4zebra61] #8045327
01/10/24 11:42 AM
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Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8045358
01/10/24 12:40 PM
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So is that a No.3 pan on a 2 1/2 trap?

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8045434
01/10/24 02:31 PM
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Nice! #3 factory substitute pan.

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: snakecollector] #8045481
01/10/24 03:59 PM
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I knew Dean would solve it!


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Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8045568
01/10/24 06:02 PM
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It's all about timing, just happened to walk up to the guys table in escanaba while he was setting stuff out.

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8045573
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How common is a small pan 2 1/2? What spring and chain should be on one? Thanks

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8046096
01/11/24 01:45 AM
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If that’s factory original that’s a very nice trap to own bumpy. Can you read the spring stamping on that one?



You ask about which chain on a small pan otter trap? The first otter traps had slotted lips on the edge of the pan. Is that what you are asking about is one of those?

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8046104
01/11/24 02:08 AM
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I think this is a small pan, they made this pan in ny and ont the Canadian ones having no NY mark on the pans, a couple chains variations went on these traps too usually flat link and wire wrapped rings.

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8046164
01/11/24 07:34 AM
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This stamp is on the #3 trap spring. [Linked Image]
This is what I thought might be a small pan 2 1/2? The pan measures 2 1/4. All the rest I have measure 2 1/2

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8046821
01/12/24 01:26 AM
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Small pan, ny on the pan, straight older teeth I think I got one of those left here I’ve had several of that model and seen lots for sale.

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This one has thin nut on post and has a heavy ring on the chain looks like maybe this trap has a different tooth to it than yours.

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8047581
01/12/24 10:44 PM
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I figured that was the wrong spring on that trap, I decided to leave it the way I found it , when I sell it somebody can change it if they choose. [Linked Image]
I was wondering Mike if you could shed a little light on the different jaws, I guess maybe the different eras , some jaws have a little hook and the same tooth configuration has a little nub ? And thanks for the all the pictures

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8047583
01/12/24 10:48 PM
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You don't happen to have a extra copy of that Canadian book for sale do you?

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8047759
01/13/24 04:06 AM
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The Dec. 16, '02 patent date is for the hook on the end of the jaws, it started with the older strait teeth and continued a short time later with the bullet teeth. Here is a #2 1/2 with a patent date pan, strait teeth and one of each jaws, one with a strait end and one with the hook.

The small pan #2 1/2 is 2 1/4", the same as the early lip edged pan.


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Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: snakecollector] #8047806
01/13/24 07:41 AM
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Dean, you are a wealth of knowledge, thanks for sharing!


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Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8047941
01/13/24 10:23 AM
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Could the bullet tooth model have had the nubs?

Re: Odd ball 2 1/2 [Re: Bumpy] #8048231
01/13/24 04:28 PM
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What are you calling nubs?

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