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Lug nuts on a 13 ram! #8033338
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I hate aluminum wheel lug nuts. I'm using a 7/8 socket and everytime I either tighten or loosing they always get stuck and I have to put them in a vice to pound out. Now I have to buy steel lug nuts.!!

Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033340
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Ford is the same...they suck


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Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033348
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You can help that with some anti-seize compound on the thread when putting on the wheel bolt, no your wheel won't fall off, LOL

I've done this for years, lots of times people tighten way past the torque need to, and that is really bad for aluminum nuts

I usually just change them out for steel ones now, not to expensive but worth the effort if you are having a problem on the road or out in the wild !!


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Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033381
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The sheet metal outer layer of the lug nut swells...due to rust...and you can't get the correct size socket on the nut.

That's when the fun starts


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Nessmuck] #8033386
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck

Ford is the same...they suck


Toyota has them too, and many other brands


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Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Nessmuck] #8033412
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
The sheet metal outer layer of the lug nut swells...due to rust...and you can't get the correct size socket on the nut.

That's when the fun starts

I been there! And it's no fun.

Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Nessmuck] #8033424
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
The sheet metal outer layer of the lug nut swells...due to rust...and you can't get the correct size socket on the nut.

That's when the fun starts



Yup, but they make " between " sizes to get them off, 18.5mm, 19.5mm...
Then replace them!!!

Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033451
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You can buy a 1/2 size socket for them, they come in 19 1/2, 21 1/2, and 22 1/2 (7/8"=22mm). They're made specifically for those lug nuts with the sheet metal shells.

Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033477
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I bought lug nuts that are steel now I have to use a 22mm socket.

Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033489
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dodge 12-13 and a some others did a chromed sheet metal sleeve over the steel lug nut , bad enough that there is a oversized flip socket just for beating it on and getting them off

also I think it is a 21mm not 7/8

I had the issue with my wife's 2012 Dodge caravan Napa sells a lot of the solid replacement lug nuts for this reason


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Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033492
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I have a 12 ram, like GCP said they have an outer sheath that is the problem. I replaced mine first time I took them off. Bought some steel ones off Amazon.

Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033494
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east wood damaged lug nut removal tool a few other companies make similar
it grabs them a little different because they are bulged

you get them off then do not put them back on

https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-damaged-lug-nut-removal.html


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Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: GritGuy] #8033572
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Originally Posted by GritGuy
You can help that with some anti-seize compound on the thread when putting on the wheel bolt, no your wheel won't fall off, LOL

I've done this for years, lots of times people tighten way past the torque need to, and that is really bad for aluminum nuts

I usually just change them out for steel ones now, not to expensive but worth the effort if you are having a problem on the road or out in the wild !!


The best way to over torque lug nuts is to put anti-seize on them. Lug nuts should be installed dry.

Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: midlander] #8033574
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by GritGuy
You can help that with some anti-seize compound on the thread when putting on the wheel bolt, no your wheel won't fall off, LOL

I've done this for years, lots of times people tighten way past the torque need to, and that is really bad for aluminum nuts

I usually just change them out for steel ones now, not to expensive but worth the effort if you are having a problem on the road or out in the wild !!


The best way to over torque lug nuts is to put anti-seize on them. Lug nuts should be installed dry.

Yep. Same as spark plugs.

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X2 on anti seize.

Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033750
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I use anti seize and a torque wrench

it sure is nice to be able to get things apart again.

make sure the mating surface of the aluminum rim to the steel rotor is antiseized or fluid filmed as well as the back side of the rotor to the hub.


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Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033763
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Best way to stick any nut is not use a torque wrench how many people
Carry one in their vehicle or even use one at all, most don’t I would guess !

Forgot many people here do need extra tutoring, so sorry !

But it does work if you have some sense in using it !!!


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Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033775
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Torque specifications are for dry studs, not lubed.

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Geez dude its not rocket science !

You don’t need much at all, after about 65 years of using it I feel ok about
Recommending it to those who can eat with both hands !!


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Re: Lug nuts on a 13 ram! [Re: Guss] #8033798
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Hey Guss, regardless if you replace your lugnuts with aluminum or steel nuts, do yourself a favor and dont use anti-seize or oil/grease. It generally leads to over torqing and stretching the wheel stud. I dont think youll find any mechanics by trade that will ever recommend it any more than youll find many trappers recommending to wax your 330s. Good luck with your project.

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