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6mm ARC #8026205
12/20/23 07:28 PM
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Who's running one and what are you loading ? Told Dad to look into it and he's really really liking it ,th .22 ARC and the 6.5 Grendel . ... especially when he found out "Hay my sone and load all these from the same brass "
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Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026220
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Though about = 22 Nosler on AR 15 platform. How does it compare to 22 ARC??

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026225
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I think its like bikini models. Some years they think that stick insects are good looking and then the pendulum swings back so the more womanly type ...... I'll just stick to the 223 WSSM and wait till it is back in fashion .... the dumpy little thing. The ark has a ways to go yet to get back to the sort and fat of WSSM look grin


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Re: 6mm ARC [Re: steeltraps] #8026243
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Though about = 22 Nosler on AR 15 platform. How does it compare to 22 ARC??

Long story really short if you ever wanted to have something that acts like a custom barreled 22-250 in the fact you get high speed but also can shoot the heavy .22cal stuff ,but you don't want to mess with an AR10 or getting a .22-250 with a custom barrel you can just go with the .22 ARC.
And before anyone says it yes it's basically just the .22 Grendel /.22 coyote / whatever else it was before hornady took it and Sammi speced it. I think they did something with the shoulder. Looks like it's going to kill the .224 Valkyrie honestly. And Hornady is saying they have a new bullet worked up for it. Not a load but a bullet that apparently just plain won't work in most other .22 cals.
But yeah basically just a 6.5 Grendel necked to .22 cal . Acts like a custom .22-250 that someone built for shooting HEAVY .22cals without having to go get fancy hand loaded ammo yadda yadda .
The .224 AR is basically the same thing
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Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026247
12/20/23 08:02 PM
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And look if you like your .22-250 rem 700 whatever (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) 50gr what have you ,fine great awsome, this isn't for you.

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026299
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Own 6mm ARC, shooting 103 gr Hornady ELD X with Varget powder, excellent shooting rifle. Waiting for UPS, Friday to deliver 18'', Odin 22 ARC barrel, gas block, BCG, and rifle gas line, plus 200 pcs., of 6.5 Grendal brass. Plan on shooting Varget powder, and 75 gr Hornady bullets. Soon as I get this one built , mounting my Pulsar Thermion 2 LRF XP 50, for night hunting. Still have my 22 250,which is a favorite rifle, that I have shot for many years. I shot 55 gr v max, and H 380, that has performed excellentin my rifle. 2 staging the grendal brass down for the 22 ARC, using 6 ARC, then setting the shoulder with 22 ARC die ( 6.5 Grendal bolt face)

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Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026305
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I’ve been wondering the same Wolf??? My nephew bought one in a Ruger American I think and asked if I’d put some test loads together for him. I haven’t bought dies or brass yet. I guess I’ll put that on my winter to do list.

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026307
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Ok. With 22 ARC or 6 ARC. Like the Grendel in AR 15. You have to change bolt carrier. With 22 Nosler you don’t. I think. 22 Nosler is what I may build a. Dedicated thermal rifle on AR 15 platform

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026520
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I like how Hornady neuters their loads for non-proprietary calibers they load in order to make theirs look better. 224 Valkyrie is a good example. Same bullet weight from other manufacturers in 224Valk will walk all over the Hornady load. Oh, but wait, we have a NEW 22 caliber for you. They're the Apple of the ammo world. I'll pass on anything they try to sell simply because there are other options already available that do the same thing.


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Re: 6mm ARC [Re: sneaky] #8026673
12/21/23 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
I like how Hornady neuters their loads for non-proprietary calibers they load in order to make theirs look better. 224 Valkyrie is a good example. Same bullet weight from other manufacturers in 224Valk will walk all over the Hornady load. Oh, but wait, we have a NEW 22 caliber for you. They're the Apple of the ammo world. I'll pass on anything they try to sell simply because there are other options already available that do the same thing.

Didn't most of the companies who tried the Valkyrie mess it up though ? From my understanding most rifles had the wrong twist rates for the ammo they where producing and the federal ammo that was goin out was complete crap

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: steeltraps] #8026674
12/21/23 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Ok. With 22 ARC or 6 ARC. Like the Grendel in AR 15. You have to change bolt carrier. With 22 Nosler you don’t. I think. 22 Nosler is what I may build a. Dedicated thermal rifle on AR 15 platform

I thing think I could go with the nosler honestly, the rebated rim seems to have given peoel a lot of problems.

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: 1cav] #8026675
12/21/23 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 1cav
Own 6mm ARC, shooting 103 gr Hornady ELD X with Varget powder, excellent shooting rifle. Waiting for UPS, Friday to deliver 18'', Odin 22 ARC barrel, gas block, BCG, and rifle gas line, plus 200 pcs., of 6.5 Grendal brass. Plan on shooting Varget powder, and 75 gr Hornady bullets. Soon as I get this one built , mounting my Pulsar Thermion 2 LRF XP 50, for night hunting. Still have my 22 250,which is a favorite rifle, that I have shot for many years. I shot 55 gr v max, and H 380, that has performed excellentin my rifle. 2 staging the grendal brass down for the 22 ARC, using 6 ARC, then setting the shoulder with 22 ARC die ( 6.5 Grendal bolt face)

Awesome rha ks for the info and wait they already have .22 ARC barrel out ?!

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026697
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OK so you got me. I looked up the numbers. More reinventing the wheel. IMO


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I bought a 25-06 a few months ago as a favor to a friend of my wife. Got in a tight spot financially. Honestly I paid to much. Could have bought the same rifle cheaper easily if I wanted one but, when your wife says buy this gun its not good to argue. Not ten cents difference in it and my 270. Same hold at 400 yards 200 and 100. Both sighted in at 300. Shooting 117 grainers in the 25 and 130 in the 270. As for the 6mmARC I have a 243 which looking at the numbers has a significantly greater velocity. Velocity is king. Velocity is why I shoot 300 win mag when I want a heavier bullet.

Someday somebody will make a real improvement in a rifle. Hasn't happened in a while. Accuracy is more consistent now. Even cheap rifles usually shoot decent, but no significant performance increase has occurred in quite awhile IMO.


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Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026710
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due to the availability of better high BC bullets hornady basicly just took a 6mm PPC and gave it a fast twist. my 6 ARC shoots well, running 103 ELDX, or 108 ELDM in front of a max charge of Lever, runs them 2650- 2700 fps.
this is shots 8,9&10 during break in with factory loads
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have shot steel to 1100 yards with good results. Awesome cartridge for thee AR15 platform.

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: Wolfdog91] #8026713
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Danny is right. Not that the new calibers aren't slight improvements over old ones due to barrel twist rates, but, hey, marketing needs something new to sell.

Anyone here ever of the Remington .22BR? Decades ago. And the Norma 6mmBR was the Rem 6mmBR, slightly changed and commercialized. Remington never filed it with SAMMI.

Where do you think some of these ideas for new calibers come from???

Just more toys to play with.

Re: 6mm ARC [Re: danny clifton] #8026716
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
As for the 6mmARC I have a 243 which looking at the numbers has a significantly greater velocity. Velocity is king. Velocity is why I shoot 300 win mag when I want a heavier bullet.

Someday somebody will make a real improvement in a rifle. Hasn't happened in a while. Accuracy is more consistent now. Even cheap rifles usually shoot decent, but no significant performance increase has occurred in quite awhile IMO.


Just so you know, in the world of long range shooting BC outruns velocity every time. If you don't believe me, crunch some numbers on your 243 with an 85 gr sierra vs. a Berger 105 and see what the results are at 600 yards and beyond.

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If I want to take a 600 shot at an elk I will shoot the win mag.


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TIPPED TSX 180 grains 30 cal has a bc of 484.


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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If I want to take a 600 shot at an elk I will shoot the win mag.

wasn't aware the thread was about elk rifles, would have mentioned my 338 Edge, running a 300 gr berger at 2800 fps with a BC of .836

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