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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011867
12/04/23 09:58 PM
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Savage 99’s are hard to beat!


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011868
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I wasn't taking a shot at Mainelogger. I've owned an AR and it's a fun gun to shoot but the whole tactical craze has gone too far, at least in my thinking. Much better choices for a deer rifle out the to choose from.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011884
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I Love old Rifles

I only have 2 from my Dad and None from my Granpa s


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011890
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If a firearm is reliable , functions and shoots with in reason, how is one any better than the other? It all seems like personal choice to me. I am not a lever action fan myself, but could care less if you like them. If you want to hunt with an AR how is it different than any other semi auto?


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011892
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AR15’s are the ultimate kid gun. The buttstock can be adjusted to fit about any length of pull and they generally have no kick. We let the younger kids shoot the 5.56 and as they mature, swap out with an AR10 in 7.62 that looks the same but with a little more range and punch. They generally have no idea except for flipping deer over, lol.

Re: Old guns [Re: MJM] #8011899
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Originally Posted by MJM
If a firearm is reliable , functions and shoots with in reason, how is one any better than the other? It all seems like personal choice to me. I am not a lever action fan myself, but could care less if you like them. If you want to hunt with an AR how is it different than any other semi auto?

Plastic.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011902
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I like guns that are accurate.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011924
12/04/23 10:41 PM
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I like old guns ,the only issue being old guns have old sighting systems and that is one area that has improved greatly.

the other thing is old guns are harder and harder to get parts for and harder to clean

I have special place for M37 Ithica's , 1903A3 , 30-30s

the 870 is 72 years and 500 and 62 years old
those are my 2 go-to shotguns
mine are not that old but I had a 870 from 1954 and my current 870 is a 1985 police magnum
my 500 is one of my newest shotguns dating from 1990 if I am going hunting in the rain it is what you will find in my hand. it cleans easy and parts are all over the place.

ok back to sighting systems the Mauser type sights don't lend themselves to fast target acquisition like an LPVO or even a good peep.
if there is no way to mount better sights or optic , or it takes a lot to clean all the spots then it is for fair weather and fun range shooting.

I would rather enjoy an 03A3 with the original sights than start drilling into it to make it something it isn't

my 30-30 wears a globe front and a peep rear because it didn't modify the gun any.

for deer or any game at 25-125 yards the old cartridges do very well 35rem , 30-30win , 32win spl , 38-55 , 45-70 , and many others and they do a good job of making 2 holes

when you are looking for a hunting rifle and you can buy a new gun for 400 dollars and drop an optic on it and be ready to sight in and go hunting if anything is wrong with it send it back to the manufacuter for a warrantee , if you break anything parts are no problem or you can spend 400 and get an old sporterise Mauser with old rings and a scope that has foggy by comparison glass , then try and find a new scope that fits the old mounts and hope that it shoots and your not getting some one's mistake.

Muzzle loader sales tell us a lot more people are hunters than muzzle loaders or inlines with optics that shoot 209 and pelletized powder wouldn't be the most common thing. heck the fire stick really takes it to a muzzleloading cartridge gun.


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8011952
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Most old guns were built better and feel WAY better then the crap in the past 20 years...
Bring back Wood!


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Re: Old guns [Re: bucksnbears] #8011972
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Most old guns were built better and feel WAY better then the crap in the past 20 years...
Bring back Wood!



Amen!!!


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Re: Old guns [Re: bucksnbears] #8011999
12/05/23 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Most old guns were built better and feel WAY better then the crap in the past 20 years...
Bring back Wood!


I would say yes and no. Internally modern cnc tooling allows new to hold to tighter tolerances meaning more consistent barrels and parts fitting. Accuracy has improved.

Externally the old aesthetics are gone and the labor to hand fit wood to metal or rub on a proper coat of BLO would cost more than the cnc machine and don't even get me started on the environmental issues of hot bluing.

So modern stuff has the potential to shoot straighter and be as ugly as a mud fence.


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8012027
12/05/23 01:23 AM
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a nice thing about some of the modern guns is you get home from a day of hunting in the rain

toss a towel on the table and in 90 seconds with no tools the gun is apart you let it dry while you take a hot shower and when done hose out a few spots with a dry lube , give it a wipe down and put it back together in less than 2 minutes.




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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8012036
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i use a mosin nagant m38 for a close range bear gun. The date is 1942.


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8012059
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A friend of mine inherited his brothers gun collection,he asked me if I wanted a German mauser.When he was doling out the rifles to the grandchildren they wanted nothing to do with it.


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Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8012133
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Originally Posted by seniortrap
Does any of you notice how the old guns from 50-100 years ago seem to be out of style?

Today if its not a 6mm, 6.5 or a 350 legend etc. its not any good.

I have a Winchester model 94 in .32 Win.spl. that my son thinks is too old. Its killed more deer than his rifles.

Also if your not a stick and string guy, your not cool. Or a compound bow. Let alone a crossbow (gun bow), your not with it.

Why don't we just setup land mines for our game? How about a claymore to take any and all down? Crazy, yes?

I'm done.

just so you know, the faster twist does make a noticeable difference in bullet expansion. so the heavies expand pretty well.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8012182
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Last season I used my great uncle’s 1907 Winchester 351 self loader to kill my deer. I am glad it was close because I couldn’t focus on both the front at rear sights. I just wanted to kill a deer with old uncle Jimmy’s gun. Also unfortunately this gun would have been on the chopping block form past nut cases firearms bans. I gun designed 120 years ago.

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8012191
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How about the "new" gun you bought that is now the "old" gun, ie, the 7mmSTW Sendero.

Re: Old guns [Re: Diggerman] #8012220
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
How about the "new" gun you bought that is now the "old" gun, ie, the 7mmSTW Sendero.


I say that’s a keeper, sadly I had a Sendero once and can’t even remember the caliber

Re: Old guns [Re: seniortrap] #8012244
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I'll buy that 32 off you if you want to upgrade! I love those old 32s.

I started in the long range hunting before anybody had ever heard of PRC matches or it became a craze on the internet. I had my 7mm STW built over fifteen years ago now, and I love that gun when I need to reach out there, it has killed a lot of stuff. But if I'm hunting the timber my first choice is either my Remington 760 270 or Marlin 1895 45/70

Re: Old guns [Re: Scout1] #8012254
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Originally Posted by Scout1
Savage 99’s are hard to beat!


I agree! I have one (.300 Caliber) that was made in 1937 and belonged to my grandfather. I got two deer with it this year.

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