Providence, I do not feel a bit sorry for the guys that lease out their ground to the hunters either. Fact is there are little guys like me that are surrounded by these leased grounds. We are the ones that are hurt the most by the overpopulation. I refuse to lease my ground as it is one of the few places around that a young person can still ask permission and hunt or fish. All I ask is they leave no trash or ruts behind. So in simple words I am not getting a dime from the hunters, but I get to suffer the consequences of being surrounded by leased ground and the lack of management that go along with it. The area I am in is eastern KS. I don't expect with gas prices it is doable, but I have yet to turn away a young person that asks permission and respects my no trash no ruts rule.

if you get sued for letting someone hunt its time to shoot a lawyer

Most places that lease the leaser must have insurance. To let just anyone on your property can open you up to lawsuits. Even the place we work/hunt/trap/fish we have to sign a waiver and I’m an employee. Used to you could just about hunt anywhere. When lawsuits started, that ended. Heck, they tried to sue a plantation owner because some yankee from Atlanta hit a deer on the highway. They looked out a saw green fields and said they were food plots for deer and if he hadn’t planted them then the deer wouldn’t have crossed the road. Of course they didn’t win and his lawyers made them regret filing, but that the kind of junk landowners have to deal with. And this landowner makes his employees kill between 80-120 a year.
Unless you’re “known” you’re not getting permission or even leasing. When we’re in killing mode, we’ll take the rifles and kill 5-10 a sit. It’s not hunting at that point, it’s just management.

Our regulations book used to have a waver/ hunting permission slip on it to use to put Lang owners at ease. I have not looked in one of the printed book in a few years to know if they are still there never used one.

Providence, I do not feel a bit sorry for the guys that lease out their ground to the hunters either. Fact is there are little guys like me that are surrounded by these leased grounds. We are the ones that are hurt the most by the overpopulation. I refuse to lease my ground as it is one of the few places around that a young person can still ask permission and hunt or fish. All I ask is they leave no trash or ruts behind. So in simple words I am not getting a dime from the hunters, but I get to suffer the consequences of being surrounded by leased ground and the lack of management that go along with it. The area I am in is eastern KS. I don't expect with gas prices it is doable, but I have yet to turn away a young person that asks permission and respects my no trash no ruts rule.

Poachers are cheap. They don't shell out for suppressors and thermals. If they did, they'd be a lot harder to catch.

I would have no qualms about someone popping a deer illegally if they seriously needed the meat and didn’t have other resources to get food.
But this is stealing , plain as day, not stealing from the state ( which I always think as absurd) but stealing from the sportsmen/women who have spent countless thousands of dollars on permits, tags, habitat restoration, etc.
This person wasn’t starving, and probably had an illegal market for the meat.

Public trust doctrine. Wildlife is owned by the public, held in trust by the State.

A few years ago Nebr G&P saw an unusual number of stands from their airplane on my BILs farm. Thought sure they had found an illegal operation. It's a mile from KS so they were certain they were hunting in KS too. 2nd day of season they raided the place, including suits from the office in Lincoln hoping for a photo op, NE wardens and KS wardens. BIL and my Sister had leased the place to hunters from NY and they had put up a.buttload of stands. The only violation they found was a 17 yr old boy sitting 198 yds from a pile of spilled corn so they wrote his Mom a ticket as the boy told them he wanted to be a warden for a career. If you have a game violation on your record you can't be a warden. So after that hullabaloo a warden drove back 70 miles to present the 50 dollar ticket to the County Attorney. My Sister worked for the attorney and she said " oh, I heard you visited one of our farms yesterday ".