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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: H2ORat]
#7972043
10/15/23 10:07 AM
10/15/23 10:07 AM
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Posts: 17,740
Central Oregon
AntiGov
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trapper
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Central Oregon
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Prolly another step in eliminating trapping , by making it harder , without actually needing votes to completely shut down trapping
Inch by inch
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: H2ORat]
#7972083
10/15/23 11:16 AM
10/15/23 11:16 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,246
Oregon
beaverpeeler
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trapper
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Oregon
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Your customer had no obligation to talk to ODFW about his beaver situation. Per the current Oregon statutes "beaver on private land are classified as predatory animals and no permission required to have them removed".
It would take new rules form the game commission to change that. They meet this June.
However there is a wrinkle about private forest land ownership and the deal with the devil they made. I'm unsure how that will play out.
Last edited by beaverpeeler; 10/15/23 11:17 AM.
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: H2ORat]
#7972296
10/15/23 04:57 PM
10/15/23 04:57 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,246
Oregon
beaverpeeler
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trapper
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Oregon
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If any of you have recently been contacted by ODFW about where you caught your beaver last season (like I was last week) one of the questions was whether you took them off of private or public land.
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: beaverpeeler]
#7977916
10/23/23 04:22 PM
10/23/23 04:22 PM
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Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 45
OR
Minz
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trapper
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If any of you have recently been contacted by ODFW about where you caught your beaver last season (like I was last week) one of the questions was whether you took them off of private or public land. I got my call today. I would have thought it a scam if I had not read it here first. Most of mine come out of the Johnson Creek system in creeks that are so small they do not show up on their maps. After a while she put me down as the Lower Willamette, land owner conflict. I have to wonder if all the homeless camps along the creek and walking paths are pushing them up river.
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: H2ORat]
#7981638
10/28/23 02:10 PM
10/28/23 02:10 PM
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Posts: 10,930
SW Georgia
Wanna Be
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trapper
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SW Georgia
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What’s sad to me as a Southerner is I read all these great articles and stories as a kid about the West and all its outdoors opportunities. Everything from trapping, hunting, and fishing. Go West young man wasn’t just for gold, it was an outdoorsman’s paradise.
Now, it seems it was all a lie, or they’ve changed everything completely. Can’t hunt certain things now. Can’t trap. Sounds like y’all ain’t got enough “Rednecks” to keep things rolling. Heck, Georgia just signed a law delisting coons and possums as furbearers and game animals so they can be trapped year round. Our turkeys are taking a hit and they saw the need to remove nest raiders besides just during trapping season. Coyotes, beavers, coons, and possums are now year round opportunities for us.
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: Jeremy Watson]
#7981870
10/28/23 08:52 PM
10/28/23 08:52 PM
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Posts: 11,246
Oregon
beaverpeeler
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trapper
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Oregon
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Carl it’s written in that private forest accord that if they have beaver creating damage and they have marketable timber they cannot be removed. That’s my understanding You might want to check that out further. I think it says they can be removed but the fur/by products cannot be utilized. But the good thing is this, (at least for me): I can boat trap navigable streams through private forestland and trap to the mean high water mark- because that is actually public domain.
Last edited by beaverpeeler; 10/28/23 08:53 PM.
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: Wanna Be]
#7981998
10/29/23 01:05 AM
10/29/23 01:05 AM
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Posts: 9,228
Alaska and Washington State
waggler
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trapper
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Posts: 9,228
Alaska and Washington State
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What’s sad to me as a Southerner is I read all these great articles and stories as a kid about the West and all its outdoors opportunities. Everything from trapping, hunting, and fishing. Go West young man wasn’t just for gold, it was an outdoorsman’s paradise.
Now, it seems it was all a lie, or they’ve changed everything completely. Can’t hunt certain things now. Can’t trap. Sounds like y’all ain’t got enough “Rednecks” to keep things rolling. Heck, Georgia just signed a law delisting coons and possums as furbearers and game animals so they can be trapped year round. Our turkeys are taking a hit and they saw the need to remove nest raiders besides just during trapping season. Coyotes, beavers, coons, and possums are now year round opportunities for us. That because beginning in the 1970's all the fruits, nuts, and Marxists, from the rest of the Country moved to the west coast; Los Angeles, San Francisco, Eugene, Portland, Olympia, Seattle. The far west's liberal voting blocks are isolated in just a few communities.
"My life is better than your vacation"
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: beaverpeeler]
#7982002
10/29/23 01:21 AM
10/29/23 01:21 AM
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Posts: 1,410
WI
BvrRetriever
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trapper
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WI
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If any of you have recently been contacted by ODFW about where you caught your beaver last season (like I was last week) one of the questions was whether you took them off of private or public land. Idk why you or anyone else would answer any questions on any type of trapping survey…absolutely no reason to respond!!
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: H2ORat]
#7982009
10/29/23 01:51 AM
10/29/23 01:51 AM
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Posts: 11,246
Oregon
beaverpeeler
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trapper
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Oregon
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Because it is being required by our regs. Actually responding to the survey can be helpful to our side. As it is the do-gooders claim all kinds of preposterous things about the Oregon beaver harvest. With carefully gathered data we can refute the BS.
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: BvrRetriever]
#7982152
10/29/23 09:22 AM
10/29/23 09:22 AM
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Posts: 1,297
Sugar Grove, WV
JTfromWV
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trapper
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Posts: 1,297
Sugar Grove, WV
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If any of you have recently been contacted by ODFW about where you caught your beaver last season (like I was last week) one of the questions was whether you took them off of private or public land. Idk why you or anyone else would answer any questions on any type of trapping survey…absolutely no reason to respond!! Easier to make sound management decisions with accurate information than it is with no information. Get to know your furbearer biologist and have conversations with them. Give them feedback on what you think is going well and what is going poorly. Does your state trapper's association have a good relationship with your DNR and fur bearer biologist?
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: BvrRetriever]
#7982154
10/29/23 09:22 AM
10/29/23 09:22 AM
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Posts: 1,297
Sugar Grove, WV
JTfromWV
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trapper
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Posts: 1,297
Sugar Grove, WV
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If any of you have recently been contacted by ODFW about where you caught your beaver last season (like I was last week) one of the questions was whether you took them off of private or public land. Idk why you or anyone else would answer any questions on any type of trapping survey…absolutely no reason to respond!! Easier to make sound management decisions with accurate information than it is with no information. Get to know your furbearer biologist and have conversations with them. Give them feedback on what you think is going well and what is going poorly. Does your state trapper's association have a good relationship with your DNR and fur bearer biologist?
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Re: Oregon trappers
[Re: H2ORat]
#7982303
10/29/23 02:49 PM
10/29/23 02:49 PM
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Posts: 11,246
Oregon
beaverpeeler
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trapper
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Oregon
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You hit it on the nail JT. I had a nice conversation with the ODFW Furbearer coordinator. He's definitely on our side. One of the myths that the collected data will help dispel is that the beaver harvest is coming from wilderness areas and sensitive coho habitat areas.
It isn't, but some on the game commission have openly challenged that and told our coordinator that he has no proof of where the harvest is coming from.
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