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Newhouse #4 double long spring, offset jaws #7955057 09/20/23 09:46 PM 09/20/23 09:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 5 Montana M MontanaRancher OP trapper
MontanaRancher OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 5 Montana	I have some Newhouse #4 Double Longspring with Offset Jaws. I’m not familiar with them. Was curious if anyone could help me value them without just stealing them from me Thanks!

Re: Newhouse #4 double long spring, offset jaws [Re: MontanaRancher] #7955172 09/21/23 06:29 AM 09/21/23 06:29 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,875 Northern Illinois M MChewk trapper
MChewk trapper M Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,875 Northern Illinois	Yep, I have a few #3 Newhouse double long springs with offset jaws. Some of the government trappers/agencies were using them as traps research was being done. There are many more knowledgable than me on this topic...so I'll shut up and learn. Nice trap!

Re: Newhouse #4 double long spring, offset jaws [Re: MChewk] #7955619 09/21/23 06:16 PM 09/21/23 06:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 71 Texas USA I IWM trapper
IWM trapper I Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 71 Texas USA	Your raised-letter pan #4 ATC trap was made after 1976. Those jaws were last of 3 series of "heavy offsets" made by ATC. OC or OC Ltd never made a smooth offset jaw {without teeth) for No. 4 traps. I can see 2 gate channel/sprue attachments from casting tree on both ends of top surface of your jaws in the pics, so they are genuine ATC. Many thousands of these jaws were made from about 1937 until production ended in late 1980s. Up to mid 80's all of these offsets had part no A-299-5 on inside edge of jaw. They were extremely popular with Gov't trappers. I don't put values on traps, but it is not rare.

Re: Newhouse #4 double long spring, offset jaws [Re: MontanaRancher] #7955703 09/21/23 09:00 PM 09/21/23 09:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 5 Montana M MontanaRancher OP trapper
MontanaRancher OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 5 Montana	The underside of the pan has A-30-1 stamped on it. Part number?

Re: Newhouse #4 double long spring, offset jaws [Re: MontanaRancher] #7955716 09/21/23 09:14 PM 09/21/23 09:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 71 Texas USA I IWM trapper
IWM trapper I Joined: Jul 2017 Posts: 71 Texas USA	yes standard for #4 pans

Re: Newhouse #4 double long spring, offset jaws [Re: IWM] #7955753 09/21/23 09:44 PM 09/21/23 09:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 5 Montana M MontanaRancher OP trapper
MontanaRancher OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 5 Montana	Thank you for all the information! I’m not planning on selling, was very curious about them though!

Re: Newhouse #4 double long spring, offset jaws [Re: MontanaRancher] #7958430 09/25/23 10:15 PM 09/25/23 10:15 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 10,509 MN S Steven 49er trapper
Steven 49er trapper S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 10,509 MN	Montana Rancher, do any of your traps have any kind of stamping on them indicating they may have been a government trap or some other entity? That can add some value. "Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.

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