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Wolf Snares: where to buy ? #7953580
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I need a few wolf snares. I only need a few and maybe not any. If I need more then I will make some. The Montana regs read:

"Snares must be equipped with a loop stop that will close to a loop
no smaller than 2.5 inches in diameter (stop placed at no less than
8 inches from end of loop). Snares must have a breakaway device
rated at 1,000 lbs. or less installed on the loop end. Snares must
be placed such that the bottom of the snare loop is at least 18
inches above the surface"

Will the height work?

Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7953587
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Yeah that height will work fine. The deer stop could be a pain though. You might find some still jumping around and some water head.


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Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7953591
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Too high for my liking,but will work occasionally if far enough from the bait.Set lots as lots will be knocked down.
You will have to be handy with a needle and thread,since some will saw their heads off from the deerstop,especially if you use a nut.


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Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7953607
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A 2 1/2 inch dia deer stop should not be a problem. I can assure you no wolf will last long if if a snare is tightened to that point. I am guessing White17 and Boco are reading a 8" dia. What I read is 8" from the loop end of the cable, which will give you a 2 1/2 inch dia.


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Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: MJM] #7953625
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Originally Posted by MJM
A 2 1/2 inch dia deer stop should not be a problem. I can assure you no wolf will last long if if a snare is tightened to that point. I am guessing White17 and Boco are reading a 8" dia. What I read is 8" from the loop end of the cable, which will give you a 2 1/2 inch dia.


Coyotes are dead with them if the snare is designed and set correctly. You can use mini deer stops with no rough edges as well.

I'd contact Newt at www.snareone.com and have him custom build you some snares to your specs. He's a top notch snare builder.

Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7953652
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Let us know if you see any damage on them from the deer stop.


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Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7953677
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Snaring wolfs will be a challenge but that's why it interests me. Snaring has not been legal here long. Last year there was one wolf caught in a snare. Maybe the only one ever since new wolf trapping has been allowed.

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by MJM
A 2 1/2 inch dia deer stop should not be a problem. I can assure you no wolf will last long if if a snare is tightened to that point. I am guessing White17 and Boco are reading a 8" dia. What I read is 8" from the loop end of the cable, which will give you a 2 1/2 inch dia.


Coyotes are dead with them if the snare is designed and set correctly. You can use mini deer stops with no rough edges as well.

I'd contact Newt at www.snareone.com and have him custom build you some snares to your specs. He's a top notch snare builder.

I will call Newt-thank you for that!

Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7953682
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I searched around for different snare makers and could not really nail one down with out calling around so that's why I ask.

Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7953768
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Originally Posted by Slick Pan
Snaring wolfs will be a challenge but that's why it interests me. Snaring has not been legal here long. Last year there was one wolf caught in a snare. Maybe the only one ever since new wolf trapping has been allowed.

I know one trapper in Montana who snared two last year, and I'm sure that he isn't the only trapper in Montana who snared wolves last year. Unless you are talking only in your small local area?

Deer stop shouldn't be a problem, the snares I make for wolves I actually put the deer stop out farther. I would have to measure one, I haven't made any in a couple years, but I want to say I have them out at almost 11 inches. different locks can cause a big difference in how fast they go down and waterhead. But some wolves simply won't fight a snare and sit there like a dog on a leash. I don't do very much snaring, but I've had one wolf alive in my snares, it was standing there chewing on my snare when I got there, and it wasn't even cinched down on his neck. After he was dispatched I discovered he was already wearing someone else's snare that was chewed off. 18 inches is the standard suggested height for wolves, but is higher than optimal in a lot of conditions and terrain, in my opinion. You will want to have your snares where they are traveling with their head up at that height.

Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: bearcat2] #7954060
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
Originally Posted by Slick Pan
Snaring wolfs will be a challenge but that's why it interests me. Snaring has not been legal here long. Last year there was one wolf caught in a snare. Maybe the only one ever since new wolf trapping has been allowed.

I know one trapper in Montana who snared two last year, and I'm sure that he isn't the only trapper in Montana who snared wolves last year. Unless you are talking only in your small local area?

Deer stop shouldn't be a problem, the snares I make for wolves I actually put the deer stop out farther. I would have to measure one, I haven't made any in a couple years, but I want to say I have them out at almost 11 inches. different locks can cause a big difference in how fast they go down and waterhead. But some wolves simply won't fight a snare and sit there like a dog on a leash. I don't do very much snaring, but I've had one wolf alive in my snares, it was standing there chewing on my snare when I got there, and it wasn't even cinched down on his neck. After he was dispatched I discovered he was already wearing someone else's snare that was chewed off. 18 inches is the standard suggested height for wolves, but is higher than optimal in a lot of conditions and terrain, in my opinion. You will want to have your snares where they are traveling with their head up at that height.

Thanks for your reply: this is what I see from MFWP;Looks like it has been updated with two wolfs snared on this map for 2021 - 2022 nothing I see for 22-23 season .I was going by 21-22 season forgot that last year was 22 -23:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=19HD-kkXkJpKyrWGT8IdjPDoNbK3Zq3ac&femb=1&ll=46.91639936051983%2C-113.55605268528878&z=6

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Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7954099
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Over the years I have had far better luck snaring wolves than trapping them. It seems way more efficient and not nearly as susceptible to snow.

The rule of thumb is bottom of the loop knee-high......which is about 21 inches on me. So 18 Inches should be fine


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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by MJM
A 2 1/2 inch dia deer stop should not be a problem. I can assure you no wolf will last long if if a snare is tightened to that point. I am guessing White17 and Boco are reading a 8" dia. What I read is 8" from the loop end of the cable, which will give you a 2 1/2 inch dia.


Coyotes are dead with them if the snare is designed and set correctly. You can use mini deer stops with no rough edges as well.

I'd contact Newt at www.snareone.com and have him custom build you some snares to your specs. He's a top notch snare builder.



This ^^^^^^ Newt has a world of Knowledge when it comes to snares.

Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7954182
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Newt has snared wolves in Canada so he has the experience you need.


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Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: white17] #7954238
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Originally Posted by white17
Over the years I have had far better luck snaring wolves than trapping them. It seems way more efficient and not nearly as susceptible to snow.

The rule of thumb is bottom of the loop knee-high......which is about 21 inches on me. So 18 Inches should be fine


From my past trapping experience I deduced that snaring was the way to go for wolfs even thought I have never done it. White 17: you are giving these other trappers to much education grin

Re: Wolf Snares: where to buy ? [Re: Slick Pan] #7954513
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The wolfs I have seen in snares .Closes the snare loop to 4" di. when tight around the wolfs neck.
Are kill springs legal to use ? in MT.
I now make a kill spring which is 3 1/4" long while gives more killing power to the snare .Most kill springs are only a 2" or less.
Another thing to think about is the length of your wolf snares. The wolf needs at least a 10" run to "set" the spring.
I like a snare that is at least 144" in length


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Originally Posted by Newt
The wolfs I have seen in snares .Closes the snare loop to 4" di. when tight around the wolfs neck.
Are kill springs legal to use ? in MT.
I now make a kill spring which is 3 1/4" long while gives more killing power to the snare .Most kill springs are only a 2" or less.
Another thing to think about is the length of your wolf snares. The wolf needs at least a 10" run to "set" the spring.
I like a snare that is at least 144" in length


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