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Coyotes getting established #7929215
08/15/23 11:41 PM
08/15/23 11:41 PM
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Eastern Shore, MD
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We’ve enjoyed many years of no coyotes to contend with. Great red fox populations made it easy for a fox trapper to really stack some numbers. I’m afraid these guys are here to stay. About 6-7 years ago , there were sightings with very few killed. Every year the sightings grew, and the deer hunters started to kill one here and one there. Now , the butt sniffers are becoming more and more prevalent, and the surprise of hearing “I saw a coyote!” is over. Take it or leave it, they are here to stay, and our ecosystem will adjust to their presence.
Two weeks ago I put this deer camera out , on the farm I grew up on. Trapped this ground since I was 9 years old, where I caught a pile of red fox. Few years ago (25 years later) I caught a coyote in a fox trap, and it was a surprise. When I pulled the card out of the camera yesterday, this is what I got. About every other day these guys show up, one pic has 5 in it. Guess it’s time to swap out for double stake swivels , beef up my fox trapping gear to accommodate the coyote.

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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929218
08/15/23 11:46 PM
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Welcome to Wisconsin 40 years ago.


I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929219
08/15/23 11:46 PM
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Welcome to Wisconsin 40 years ago.


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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929222
08/15/23 11:49 PM
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Iowa
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Yes, same thing happened here as well. Sorry about the luck. On the other hand, that is a nice photo.

Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929229
08/16/23 12:08 AM
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Aliceville, Kansas 43
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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929230
08/16/23 12:16 AM
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Granted that I don't get out as much as I used to, but nowadays I see more red foxes in town than I do when I'm out hunting.


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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929233
08/16/23 12:39 AM
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Same here in 1970 Illinois say bye bye to the red fox

Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929236
08/16/23 01:09 AM
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Champaign County, Ohio.
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I saw my first Ohio coyote in 1984 in the Springdale suburb of Cincinnati. It was in the woods across the street from my parents house. It was sitting looking through a fence, with its head on its paws. I though it was a rabbit, from a distance, until it stood up. I followed it down the path for about 200 yards, until it kicked it into high gear. It had little fear of me. It ran down towards a nursing home. We later found out the residents of the nursing home were feeding large numbers of coyotes. The residents called them wolves. 20 plus coyotes would come at a time for the residents to feed them their scraps from dinner. They would take food from their hands. Several years later, the city started trapping coyotes, because they were killing lots of dogs and cats. They caught 37 at the nursing home in 2 weeks and 68 total out of the woods.

All the red fox, which were previously common too see in yards and the woods disappeared.

The last few years I have been seeing a lot more red fox again. I think the remnants finally adapted to predation by coyotes. Coyotes still catch some of them. A few years ago, I posted a picture of a male red fox, the coyotes caught and partially ate on my farm. An old very large, stinky male fox and a small adult female fox, both disappeared within a week or so of that. Before that I would see them nearly daily. The old male would come within a few feet of me to eat eggs at my egg dump. The other two would get within about 15'. The pair denned for at least a few weeks a year on the bank below my barn. Their pups were fun to watch.

I've got some new fox on my farm now. They have been stashing a lot of eggs. They are still skittish of me.

Keith

Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929237
08/16/23 01:20 AM
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And those coyotes are healthy. Probably got bellies full of red fox.


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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929239
08/16/23 01:45 AM
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Cherish the photos and experiences of running those fox lines and seeing reds bouncing in your sets. Those days are, or soon will be, over. They’ll come back slightly but never recover to pre coyote levels.

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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929246
08/16/23 04:32 AM
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Eastern Shore, MD
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If you don't mind sharing, what county on the Shore?

Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929272
08/16/23 06:28 AM
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Grew up my entire life in SWGA. Dabbled in trapping as a very young kid in 1980 with a buddy of mine. Along with coons, red fox were our main catch, along with a few cats. For a few years every winter two kids were bringing home more than their dads selling green furs every other weekend. Reds were literally everywhere with an occasional Grey.
I remember our first coyote. We were confused at first thinking it was a German Shepherd, but then realized we’d caught a coyote, an animal we thought of as a Western animal. There was no value for coyotes down here so we released it not knowing any better.
Now 40+ years later if we see a Red it’s talked about. My son and I both let everyone know any Red caught will be released. Caught 3 over the last 6-7 years.
Enjoy your fox while you still have them, I have a feeling their days are numbered for you now.

Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929287
08/16/23 07:00 AM
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Missouri
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Sorry to hear it. Like others have said, say goodbye to your red fox. The county that I live in has one of the highest coyote populations in the state. And the lack of red fox to prove it.

Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929291
08/16/23 07:09 AM
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We have both red fox and coyote. The grey fox are in decline. No expert on the subject though.


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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: Rob & Neall] #7929305
08/16/23 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob & Neall
If you don't mind sharing, what county on the Shore?


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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929343
08/16/23 08:23 AM
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They will take a toll on your red fox as Kieth said.

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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: Wanna Be] #7929346
08/16/23 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Grew up my entire life in SWGA. Dabbled in trapping as a very young kid in 1980 with a buddy of mine. Along with coons, red fox were our main catch, along with a few cats. For a few years every winter two kids were bringing home more than their dads selling green furs every other weekend. Reds were literally everywhere with an occasional Grey.
I remember our first coyote. We were confused at first thinking it was a German Shepherd, but then realized we’d caught a coyote, an animal we thought of as a Western animal. There was no value for coyotes down here so we released it not knowing any better.
Now 40+ years later if we see a Red it’s talked about. My son and I both let everyone know any Red caught will be released. Caught 3 over the last 6-7 years.
Enjoy your fox while you still have them, I have a feeling their days are numbered for you now.

Truth


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Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929376
08/16/23 09:27 AM
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There some on my land that Sing me asleep..

Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929385
08/16/23 09:50 AM
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Wanna Be. Same think at home. Late 80s coyote just showed up. Caught 33 my first year at 15. Then got mobile at 16. I caught like 120 plus coyotes that year. Then 200 a year on coyotes then by my 20s its 300 a year on coyotes NEVER see a red fox. Even the grey are almost gone in Alabama. In central west texas on 107000 acres we have trapped for 22 months. And removed between 350-400 coyotes so far. But. They still keep coming and always will. Place is ALWAYS coyote trackless But 1 week you may catch 2 coyotes in snares. Then weeks latter 1 more. Or 1 week you will have a run. And catch 5 or 6 in snares. Heck Will all the sheep. Coyotes just keep coming from far and wide

Re: Coyotes getting established [Re: JoMiBru] #7929387
08/16/23 09:52 AM
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Your place John? I be heard them here behind and west of my place. And caught a couple for Dale in Stockton. Routinely hear them down there. They’re here.


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