Heard a physicist on the radio the other day debunking these 3 energy saving ideas.

He said solar panels are expensive and the ground underneath them cause ground pollution eventually. They are economically a poor investment because you can't count on the sun to shine every day. Some months or when the days get shorter, the sun may not shine at all. Batteries are very expensive. The turbines themselves are expensive and it will take a long time to break even on the investment.

Wind turbines kill thousands of birds every year. There is a lot of maintenance on wind turbines and are costly repairs.

According to him, electric vehicles are impractical for a number of reasons. The batteries don't last long and are extremely costly when they need to be replaced. The power grids can't support overuse such as now with the heat. How will you ever expect it to adding all electric vehicles? He mentioned 2 countries that have gone all electric on vehicles away from fossil fuels. But, after two years have determined all electric was impractical and are switching back to fossil fuels. There are huge graveyards of trashed electric vehicles. Mileage is overestimated and is subjected to various conditions not mentioned such as wind, temperature, speed, etc.

For as long as they have been pushing these options it seems like they offer few realistic choices it’s like it’s a secret. (Conspiracy) LOL Seriously I never see any types of these kind of businesses in my travels never could figure that out.

I agree with all the above. But I'm still thinking about putting a 5 to 10 kw solar system on my home . Why? Even with the up front high cost It's paid done and over with. Now my utility bill will be reduced for decades. Yes payback at current rates on a grid tied system will be about 7 to 8 years big deal. I have the cash now and rates will continue to rise and I don't know what tomorrow will bring. I may not always have a good job or I may take a big pay cut to spend more time at home with the kids. I will have more flexibility to do so if I have lowered monthly bills. Plus I am a hands on learning individual and I want to play with a system to learn about it. I may like it or May be a big wast one way to find out.

The Govt don't care you will buy there electric cars and keep your mouth shut.

Dirty green energy is all it is and millions of morons think they are saving the world.

One hail storm and your starting over
And then the disposal of the old ones

I read where certain types of solar panels are considered hazardous waste when their lifespan is up. I'd check that before installing any......disposal requirements.

They all are. Lots of bad stuff in them. They can be recycled now but it’s very expensive. Thus the term “Dirty Green Energy”

I know disposal can get expensive real fast!

We bought a garage that had underground tanks we had to get rid of. Yikes! It cost a pretty penny!

I’m going to try a solar fan system on my new storage unit one panel runs 2 fans I hope to get some idea of what’s real and what’s not. Might add a light to it . I had a smoke alarm looking solar fan that I mounted on my coop years back that thing ran forever it seemed like. It finally got crushed when we had to move the coop when the lake came up that thing just humming away amazed me like the energizer bunny.

Here is one of the best pieces I have read on this subject in general

https://peregrine1031.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Aritlce-The-New-Energy-Economy-Reality-3.pdf

The great reset people want us living in these 15 minute cities. They really don't want you having private vehicles at all.

We should all bend over. It is coming. They do not plan to fail.

China just sent Kerry packing, with a NO on his green energy spiel.

They said they'll keep using old energy production, the new ways aren't ready. Common sense that Kerry and company lack.

What’s stupid is that hydrogen technology is here now but that is too simple, solar panels for heating water is a good thing but for electric generation it’s not the best, the best electrical generation is nuclear especially if they would be able to refine the rods and reuse them, but I believe Carter signed the agreement that stopped that, wind generation is just a pain the only advantage solar has over wind is that most of solar is that it’s usually closer to the ground.

Charles has nailed it.

As Bob mentioned, heating water with panels is very viable. Dad had them on his house back in the mid 80's and worked good. He claimed it really helped on the power bill. The tree huggers never mention how well solar clothes dryers work either. Yes for both you have to have sun. Just my 4 cents.

The second you bring up hybrids or nuclear the say heck no. That’s all you need to determine their agenda. As I have stated before China and India have each been bringing 2 coal power plants each online per week for a long time and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

Hmm had not thought about that. Yet I do have a 20wat panel on a fence charger and Hail has kot caused an issue with it in the 6 years I have had it.