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Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... #7878755
06/05/23 06:21 PM
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Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7878769
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I am just outside of that and there is no way I would support it. We have one set of irresponsible politicians in charge, I sure don't want the feds there as well. Plus, there are a lot of people in that huge area and their lie about letting the land owners keep on keeping on is just that, A LIE.

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7878784
06/05/23 07:35 PM
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I agree with Mark K. I'm closer to Mankato but I have fished it a few times. Our governor is screwing things up as it is. He doesn't need "help" from the fed. Hands off.


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Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7878790
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There is no idea to extreme for the current political climate we are living through in this state. I can see why they are proposing it now.

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7878791
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All that stuff the plan says is a lie. Just ask Alaskan about ANWAR.

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7878792
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Another agenda 21 land grab!!!
The restrictions to land owners would suffocate them and eventually squeeze them out forcing them to sell. It's a biglie. Be just another mismanaged Government run maze of toll roads- animal sanctuary.

Talk about a wolf breading grounds .

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7878887
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First I've heard of it. I'm sceptical, they would likely legislate, regulate and tax the land owners out of staying.


WHO MADE THIS MESS ALL OVER MY FLOOR THE MUDTRACKER WAS HERE HE HE HE
Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7878895
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It's how we ended up with the BWCA

Fight it with every breath.


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Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7879018
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They have been working on that for years.

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7879035
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Do NOT trust the National park service, they will promise you the world then throw you under the bus.....

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7879042
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Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7879050
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I read a bit of the proposal. My first question is why does Minnesota have "billions of dollars of budget surplus"? That just means your citizens were overtaxed. Not something to be bragging about.

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: Hoosier71] #7879055
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Originally Posted by Hoosier71
I read a bit of the proposal. My first question is why does Minnesota have "billions of dollars of budget surplus"? That just means your citizens were overtaxed. Not something to be bragging about.


In response to having a surplus they raised taxes...

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: Hoosier71] #7879088
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Originally Posted by Hoosier71
I read a bit of the proposal. My first question is why does Minnesota have "billions of dollars of budget surplus"? That just means your citizens were overtaxed. Not something to be bragging about.

A progressive would NEVER turn tax dollars back or cut taxes, it is not how they operate. Give me more, so I can spend more. They will find a home for it!


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Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: Rat Masterson] #7879096
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
They have been working on that for years.


That's how these things happen. Prepare the plan and wait for the prime opportunity to launch it.

It's no coincidence that all kinds of odd Legislation that would never stand a chance in a balanced political system breezed through in this session. Then the media reports that the house/senate have "reached agreement" on this or that historic spending or policy bill, and the Governor intends to sign. How hard is it to reach agreement on plan they all contrived together?

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: Giant Sage] #7879114
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Talk about a wolf breading grounds .


Now my mouth is salivating for some breaded Wolf !!!! laugh

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Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7879184
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living on the edge of the drift less I have mixed feelings

while I hate seeing a new McMansion pop up on every bluff and I would love to see a lot more of the land accessible

we live here and I have no trust of the NPS , BLM or any federal agency for land management

the national parks service story was just on the radio about how they are in a huge budget short fall with 10x the maintenance to get done than what they have $


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7879194
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How much trapping goes on in national parks? Hmmm . . .

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: dustytinner] #7879199
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They say that farming will be allowed, but they will put so many restrictions on farmers, to protect the water, that farmers will be run off their land.

Keith

Re: Anyone from Minnesota heard about this.... [Re: KeithC] #7879352
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There is no way the NPS can staff or manage nearly 40K square miles in four states so the sky is falling deal is over playing this. This whole region used to be called the "unglaciated region" which is not very impacting. Several years ago this area's name was changed to "driftless" and that change has brough about attention and with that some legs and lobbying influence. I grew up in the northern and eastern portion of the driftless area in WI.
This region is laced with highways, federal, state, county and local, along with major river travel etc. and highly defined and productive diverse agriculture with a key livestock component. Whatever negotiations that takes place will include a vast number of members of a very wide and diverse nature. Having the geographic area designated as a specific region is a far cry from making it a national park as we were familiar with. Will it change values, maybe. Most of the tourism will utilize the existing communities and facilities as there is not major areas for new development as the region is too expansive for condensed facilities etc.
Also here in WI thousands of acres if not hundreds of thousands of acres have been bought up by urban wealthy and many of those acres have not been farmed, logged or utilized for nearly a generation, so the idea that a new designation will instantly create or cause major change is not realistic and it also shows that many have not been paying any attention to what has been taking place for 30-40 years already.

Bryce

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