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Elm trees #7877223
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I've seen some places this year where Elm trees are being sold. Maybe I'm missing something but with dutch elm disease it doesn't seem like it'd be worth planting elm trees

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They've bred that suseptibility out of the species with GMO's.


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Originally Posted by BigBob
They've bred that suseptibility out of the species with GMO's.

There are also resistant varieties from hybridization with Asian elms.

Re: Elm trees [Re: BigBob] #7877787
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Originally Posted by BigBob
They've bred that suseptibility out of the species with GMO's.

Interesting.

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Originally Posted by BigBob
They've bred that suseptibility out of the species with GMO's.


No GMOs have been used. Selection for natural resistance and hybrids, yes.


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Re: Elm trees [Re: AJE] #7877815
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There are still many small elms, but most don't get very big. Every so often I see a big tree that appears to be doing well. Usually they are by themselves. Don't know if they are resistant to Dutch elm disease, separated enough from the population to get passed over, or a combo of both. Maybe they're just lucky

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Originally Posted by Rat_Pack
There are still many small elms, but most don't get very big. Every so often I see a big tree that appears to be doing well. Usually they are by themselves. Don't know if they are resistant to Dutch elm disease, separated enough from the population to get passed over, or a combo of both. Maybe they're just lucky


All (And I mean All) the slippery ((This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)) elm around my area died out about 3 years ago.

Not a live elm to be found anywhere.

Not sure if some new elm disease or parasite has arrived in the area ?

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Re: Elm trees [Re: AJE] #7877910
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Saw on the news where a lot of trees of various species are dying due to the drought the past couple of years. The drought has compromised the tree's immunity from certain diseases. I have a large dead oak in my yard that seemed healthy several years ago. All my elms are either dead or dying.


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I guess the Elm Zigzag Sawfly is killing off our elms in northern New York.

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Re: Elm trees [Re: AJE] #7878041
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We have 10 or so of the new Elm varieties in our yard. We planted most of them around 10-15 years ago. If I remember right we planted Accolade, Pioneer and Homestead elms.

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Re: Elm trees [Re: AJE] #7878098
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We have a lot of the Chinese elm trees in our area. They make me hate the word elm.

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
We have a lot of the Chinese elm trees in our area. They make me hate the word elm.

For sure. We have them up at the lake in our backyard. They are a nuisance and should be classified an invasive species.


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We have 3 types of native elm trees in Ohio. There are some naturally occurring American Elms that are resistant to Dutch Elm Disease. There are lots of Slippery Elm trees, so called because the bark easily comes off of the wood. The Slippery Elms are also called Red Elms because of the beautiful red wood. I've turned the wood on a lathe and you can make beautiful pieces with it. The wood and cut bark smell good and sweet. The Rock Elms, mostly grow in rocky parts of the state, like South East, Ohio. I've never seen one in my end of the state except for one I dug up and transplanted to my mom's yard.

There are nonnative, Siberian Elms, that have become established in Ohio too.

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Originally Posted by Yes sir
We have a lot of the Chinese elm trees in our area. They make me hate the word elm.


Seth they grow well out here and take the extreme heat, cold and wind. If you see a house it has Elms in the yard. The old Russian elms are our main firewood. The older houses that have Chinese elms in the yard are a nightmare to mow. I swear each tree drops a thousand dead branches.


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My parents have a giant American Elm doing well in their yard even though the ones around died of dutch elm disease.

Chinese Elms are actually nice trees and are not really invasive. What you guys are talking about is Siberian elms which are messy and a pain in the rear, they will however grow in harsh environments that other trees won't tolerate.

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There is some discussion among woodland owners that some of the native elm species are more resistant to the disease then the American Elm. Does anyone have experience with those species and how the disease impacts those species?

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Great info so far, thanks

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I grew up in Eastern NC town named Elm City. Not an elm tree in town. All died before I was born.

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I have 2 elms on my farm that didn't die when the dutch elm disease came through. They are widely separated and out in the open . One is well over 3 feet , at the butt. the other about 18 inches. old243

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