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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7875666
05/31/23 02:28 PM
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Both. Extractor and firing pin issue.

I think THIS may be the issue with the firing pin.

https://cylindersmith.com/savage24/...5Xe94IwbvC9CLsJfqN6C-jkSQphyqzAK2aCKyubA

At any event it's doing the same thing as this one is. Only firing about 30% of shots fired through the 20 gauge. The primers are being hit, but not hard enough.


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: danny clifton] #7875668
05/31/23 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Replacing parts, assuming you can buy them, is usually not difficult. especially with a camera in your phone. take pictures as you go. a smith needs to be able to make parts, modify parts, make and fit stocks, etc.


Well, I'd be wanting to just do it as a hobby and not a career. A lot of people are happy to pay someone to fix something simple on a gun.


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7875720
05/31/23 04:24 PM
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The 222 barrel on mine wouldn’t fire and that was the fix for it. I did it myself

Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7875726
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I went to Colorado School of Trades back in 1970/71. (in Lakewood, CO)

I'm not much of a smith but I do like to do stocks. I worked for Bishop Gunstocks after I got out of school


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: arcticotter] #7875736
05/31/23 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticotter
The 222 barrel on mine wouldn’t fire and that was the fix for it. I did it myself



What was? The link I posted?


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7875750
05/31/23 05:42 PM
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Yes the link. I re bent it and haven’t had any issues.

Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7875772
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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: arcticotter] #7875829
05/31/23 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by arcticotter
Yes the link. I re bent it and haven’t had any issues.


Thanks!

I ordered some parts last night... another one of those plunger arms in case I break one, a firing pin because why not cover all the bases once I have it tore apart, and a spring for the extractor because I assume that's the issue with that.

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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7875851
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That should cover it. I got lucky and didn’t have to buy anything. Just got the curve corrected.

Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7875895
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Replacing parts, assuming you can buy them, is usually not difficult. especially with a camera in your phone. take pictures as you go. a smith needs to be able to make parts, modify parts, make and fit stocks, etc.


Well, I'd be wanting to just do it as a hobby and not a career. A lot of people are happy to pay someone to fix something simple on a gun.


If that person paying you gun stays at your place overnight, you better have an FFL. It would need to be entered in an FFL's bound book.

Re: Gunsmithing [Re: K52] #7875896
05/31/23 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by K52

If that person paying you gun stays at your place overnight, you better have an FFL. It would need to be entered in an FFL's bound book.


Good to know. Thanks. Not wanting to get an FFL so guess will just tinker on my own guns.


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: K52] #7875928
06/01/23 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Replacing parts, assuming you can buy them, is usually not difficult. especially with a camera in your phone. take pictures as you go. a smith needs to be able to make parts, modify parts, make and fit stocks, etc.


Well, I'd be wanting to just do it as a hobby and not a career. A lot of people are happy to pay someone to fix something simple on a gun.


Originally Posted by K52
If that person paying you gun stays at your place overnight, you better have an FFL. It would need to be entered in an FFL's bound book.


That sounds like one of them unconstitutional thingies that a citizen doesn’t have to follow. has a duty not to comply with.

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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7875953
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Remember the commercials back in the 80s for the mail order degrees?

They’d have the list of available course study scrolling down the screen, gunsmithing was always one of the options.

Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7876083
06/01/23 11:08 AM
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very much a difference in work on your stuff for fun , maybe help some friends with stuff VS take payment

the issue is when you charge you go into a business that needs a licenses and has liability

really not different than if you do a little electrical work for yourself or help a friend and he feeds you beer and pizza for helping but he is the one ultimately responsible for pulling the permit and the work.

vs if you come in as a unlicensed electrician and start doing work for pay


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: Boone Liane] #7876084
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Remember the commercials back in the 80s for the mail order degrees?

They’d have the list of available course study scrolling down the screen, gunsmithing was always one of the options.

there are still several courses liek that

I take those to be , we have a class that gets you minimally safe but doesn't make you a master machinist , just minimally safe so you can get your gunsmith ffl and start doing some cleaning and stuff.
get you to understand you limits till you understand the more complex work


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7876087
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Why would anyone pay to get a firearm cleaned?


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7876089
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I have a buddy that does gun repair on the side. He learned by working with a gunsmith. He said, he mainly refinish’s and cleans them. And a few trigger jobs. But, the problem is they always drop off their guns right before hunting season! And they want him to have it ready for them, like right now!!

Re: Gunsmithing [Re: danny clifton] #7876112
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Why would anyone pay to get a firearm cleaned?


People do all sorts of things that I don't understand

a common one I see here on the local town info and discussion page is , "who cleans trash bins?" , yes people want their garbage can cleaned , they don't even own. it the garbage hauling company does.

when this first came up as a question the retired custodian from the high school posted how to clean a trash bin

went something like this
after trash day pickup before placing new refuse in the can
put a squirt of dish soap in
add a few gallons water , garden hose works well
take your broom and scrub the sides
tip the can over and allow to drain repeat with fresh water for rinse

they just went on with thier search for someone who would come and clean the bins ignoring him

so several months later a local pressure washing company offers a "deal" now 25 dollars a bin or 2 for 35 or 30 a month if you have them come every month and clean your 2 bins.

so there is a 10 minute task , people are willing to pay 25 dollars to have done honestly the number of jobs in this town or near by that pay 25 an hour or more are slim pickings so they likely work 2 hours to pay to not have to clean trash cans for 10 minutes .



I have met a bunch of people who don't even know how to field strip their gun to clean it , they might even have a cleaning rod and use it but can not take the gun apart to clean the action.
heck my own cousin owned his 1911 for more than a decade without ever field stripping it we were hunting in the rain one day and he was carrying the pistol we were around the table drying off guns and oiling them and he is trying to get everything wiped out on his gun with a rag , I said why don't you field strip it , now he was in the navy while 1911 were issue so he should know this , he is a master electrician and has engine swapped cars before.

he was i think afraid to do it , well too late I had it fields stripped on the table in about 10 seconds and I think he was worried we wouldn't be able to get it together again.

did I mention he was in the navy while 1911 were the issued side arm , either he forgot some how not sure how that could be possible My Marine father in law hasn't touched a gun since 1969 and I think he could still field strip a M14 or Navy your training in small arms is lacking.


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Re: Gunsmithing [Re: yotetrapper30] #7876147
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I fixed a gun for my neighbor this morning!!! laugh

I was in the middle of putting an upper control arm on a Chevy pickup because the ball joint was out when my backdoor neighbor to the garage came in with his Daisy BB gun.
It is a lever action and the lever was hanging loose and the trigger was free.

So being the good neighbor I am ( cool) I take this thing apart, not knowing beans about it, lol. I figured out the lever pushed back the spring loaded thingy to where the trigger grabbed it but it wasn't back to the trigger. He half cocked it ! I puts it back togeather, cocked it the whole way and shazaam! It works.

Re: Gunsmithing [Re: danny clifton] #7876449
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Why would anyone pay to get a firearm cleaned?


Dunno but local gun shop has a big sign on their door that they clean guns for $25.


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