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Fisher dying from rodenticides #7836482
04/02/23 03:02 PM
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It has come to my attention that fisher are dying in New York and Pennsylvania from poisons being used by farmers and orchard owners to protect against mice, red back voles, and other vermin. Unfortunately some fisher are eating these critters and in turn being killed. My sources are very reliable, not just a rumor.

Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7836576
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Fish and game here in NH ..want the lower jaw of fishers harvested for the last couple years...limit is way down to only 2


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7836577
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Fisher season is permanently closed in Virginia. That's my understanding anyway.


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7836592
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I would think more than just fisher are being poisoned; fox, owls, hawks, everything that preys on rodents.


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Lugnut] #7836696
04/02/23 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I would think more than just fisher are being poisoned; fox, owls, hawks, everything that preys on rodents.

I'm with nut.
Fox, coyote ....
Survey all farmers that use the poisons, See if any of them have any house or barn cats left.
And dead snakes layin' around.

Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7836873
04/02/23 10:52 PM
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Will be very lucky if anything changes, they'll sweep it under the table.

Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7836908
04/03/23 12:10 AM
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Al, it's going to be tough to slow that down, Look at the road salt problems around the Lake George area, For years they have peeached about stopping the use of salt on the roads, The only town that has enough money to buy that so called safe salt is The town of Bolton, Who knows what in that stuff . With as much salt that spread, It leaches to water wells & the Lakes.


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7836938
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Unfortunately poisons are cheaper than mouse & rat traps


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7836980
04/03/23 06:38 AM
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Virginia is watching the numbers of Fisher sightings and as they keep going up they are looking to establish a season. It still be a few years down the road thay are looking for more sightings from southwest Virginia.


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7837143
04/03/23 10:54 AM
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I doubt that stopping the use of the poisons will ever happen, they are too "convenient". Same thing with the salt put on the highways.Nobody wants to slow down. Just look at the brown foliage on the white pines from the salt spray along the Northway. My truck has 80,000 miles and the frame is rusted out from the salt.They know it is getting into the ground water, but do nothing about it.I wish they would go back to using salt free sand, but this is "progress".

Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Crowfoot] #7837158
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Originally Posted by Crowfoot
Originally Posted by Lugnut
I would think more than just fisher are being poisoned; fox, owls, hawks, everything that preys on rodents.

I'm with nut.
Fox, coyote ....
Survey all farmers that use the poisons, See if any of them have any house or barn cats left.
And dead snakes layin' around.

I've used " one bite " rodent bars in my Chicken coop for 20 + years and have never lost a cat or seen a dead animal or snake around our farm.


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7837358
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i cant stand using poisons, i want to know at least what and how many critters i am killing.


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7837703
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Just another means to further regulate or close fisher seasons around the country. All the time I thought it was climate change that was the reason for fisher population decline ?

Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7837763
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Originally Posted by Fisher Man
It has come to my attention that fisher are dying in New York and Pennsylvania from poisons being used by farmers and orchard owners to protect against mice, red back voles, and other vermin. Unfortunately some fisher are eating these critters and in turn being killed. My sources are very reliable, not just a rumor.


Maine did a fisher study in 2020 after fisher were found dead in New Hampshire. I donated I think 14 fisher carcasses to the Maine state furbearer biologist for testing. The study tested for a variety of different rodenticides and canine distemper. The study may still be ongoing, I’m not sure. Most of the fisher I donated had trace amounts of rodenticide and no distemper. The one I caught behind my house in Central Maine agricultural country had higher levels of rodenticide. If anyone wants more information Id be happy to share it with you. Maine’s furbearer biologist Shevenell Webb would be a good person to contact too as she ran the study from what I understand.

Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7837773
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I grew up in Northern Wisconsin and worked for a Neighbor Dairy Farm. He never used Poisons. He just had Cats. They kept the rodents down.


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Re: Fisher dying from rodenticides [Re: Fisher Man] #7837784
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In the past I have picked up dead animals witnin inches of those posion boxes that you see around everyones buildings, they are killing a bunch of different animals.

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In the past I have picked up dead animals witnin inches of those posion boxes that you see around everyones buildings, they are killing a bunch of different animals.

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