Re: Sharing Coyotes
[Re: Spike369]
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04/02/23 12:43 PM
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Actually, size of loop is less important than height off the walking surface, just fit the loop to the opening within reason. The proper bottom loop height above ground, re trail sets, for the animals in your area is very important to obtaining a humane high neck catch with large loops. For most trail sets in BC this is 14 inches above ground for bottom of the loop. The key to getting a good high neck catch with a large loop is to use a well loaded snare, and set it high. Some may walk under the snare, but coyotes do not always travel with their heads down; they often travel with their heads up. If one goes under the snare, on the next trip it will come through with its head up, or another coyote will come through with its head up.
Last edited by bctomcat; 04/02/23 12:48 PM.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Sharing Coyotes
[Re: super cub]
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04/02/23 12:43 PM
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I was having some trouble with my trail snareing with avoiding them, friend of mine said try a bigger loop, i went to a 12 to 14 inch loop 12 inches off the ground that solved my problem works good for me I'll try that. We are restricted to 12 inch loop and 12 inch off the ground. Thanks.
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Re: Sharing Coyotes
[Re: Spike369]
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04/03/23 12:03 PM
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I was having some trouble with my trail snareing with avoiding them, friend of mine said try a bigger loop, i went to a 12 to 14 inch loop 12 inches off the ground that solved my problem works good for me I'll try that. We are restricted to 12 inch loop and 12 inch off the ground. Thanks. That is right where I'd put them then. Once you get an eye for where they travel, it'll be like shooting fish in a barrel to you. (look for tracks )
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Re: Sharing Coyotes
[Re: Spike369]
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04/06/23 02:37 PM
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Wire is cheap-set more snares. You will always get knocked down snares for any number of reasons,trick is to have snares still working when some get knocked down. Knocked down snares dont spook an animal,and I would much sooner have a few knocked down snares before he gets in one,as opposed to a flank catch from too big a loop.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Sharing Coyotes
[Re: Sloppy snood]
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04/08/23 11:07 AM
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10 inch loop 10 inches off ground And a chin lifter... nothing big or they will step though the loop. A couple blades of grass, small twig, a sprig of pine needles hanging on bottom of loop. Keep it small and use it to blend in the bottom of the snare WRONG! Follow Boone Liane's recommendations and consider the following: Snare Blending/Blocking (coyotes & wolves) Many trappers worry about coyotes seeing the lock and spring but IMO they are up above a coyotes’ line of sight and a from the coyote point of view appear to be just another bit of junk hanging in the bushes. Blending in is a matter of coloration of the snare to the background color of the bush as seen from the animal’s perspective. Blocking or fencing is a no/no unless very subtle like blade of grass or a small twig or branch that appears to have fallen in place. As far as knocked down cables go it does not necessary occur because the coyote detected the snare. It often occurs because the coyote gets distracted by something else and turn its head to the side while approaching the snare and hits it with its neck or shoulder and knocks it down. Also, with setting snares high if one goes under the snare with its head down, on the next trip, or another coyote, it will come through with its head up. No different than one going around a snare and the next going into it. Blending in is a matter of coloration of the snare to the background color of the bush as seen from the animal’s perspective. Many have recommended coloring the bottom of a snare loop white for snow conditions. It often looks great from a trapper’s standing position, but from the coyote lower position looking straight through the snare the white loop bottom will show up against a dark forest/bush background like a sore thumb.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Sharing Coyotes
[Re: bctomcat]
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04/08/23 03:29 PM
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10 inch loop 10 inches off ground And a chin lifter... nothing big or they will step though the loop. A couple blades of grass, small twig, a sprig of pine needles hanging on bottom of loop. Keep it small and use it to blend in the bottom of the snare WRONG! Follow Boone Liane's recommendations and consider the following: Snare Blending/Blocking (coyotes & wolves) . Blocking or fencing is a no/no unless very subtle like blade of grass or a small twig or branch that appears to have fallen in place. Why am I wrong ? I said the same thing you did. I agree with everything you say I just suggested a subtle chin lifter
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Re: Sharing Coyotes
[Re: Sloppy snood]
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04/08/23 06:48 PM
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[/quote] Why am I wrong ? I said the same thing you did. I agree with everything you say I just suggested a subtle chin lifter [/quote] A chin lifter may just draw their attention to the snare. Most coyotes walk around with their heads up and if not in this instance they will in the next.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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