Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
[Re: BigBob]
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03/31/23 05:15 PM
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According to the Mo DNR, only 10% of a population needs to survive a winter to perpetuate a species. That's true, but hunting anything with a decent rack is going to take two decades for numbers of adult ungulates to bounce back to last years levels. Six feet of snow on the level here.
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Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
[Re: DaveP]
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03/31/23 05:34 PM
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Hunted a place many years ago along a river in Western SD that had a winter die off before I got there years before. There was a high bank curve in the river where it looked like the piled up and died there skulls and bones all over the place. Found a place loaded with goat bones also during a turkey hunt.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
[Re: Spike369]
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03/31/23 08:57 PM
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There is an overpopulation control problem, not a winter problem. You either allow more animals to be harvest or watch them starve to death. Now they want to shut down hunting? Nature will balance the wildlife herds if man won't. Shuttidown hunting would be the worst thing they could do. Just like shutting down trapping is the worst thing that can be done.
I'm glad you don't live here and can tell us what our problem is! Unless you've seen what these animals had to deal with this year, you have no clue what the wild west can be!!
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
[Re: DaveP]
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03/31/23 09:18 PM
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Sad. Not only as a hunter but a lover of wildlife. Deer are in tough shape in MN but not that bad.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
[Re: bucksnbears]
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03/31/23 10:06 PM
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Sad. Not only as a hunter but a lover of wildlife. Deer are in tough shape in MN but not that bad. Bad part of it is, there's elk in a lot of that area too that have died too, but the elk population is high, but for any animal to have to suffer like that just sucks.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
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04/01/23 07:10 AM
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Lions are going to get hungry. Probably be some livestock trouble this coming winter. I suspect lion in town will be a lot more common too. A lot of kittens die in a normal winter. With dead stuff easy to find a lot will not.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
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04/01/23 10:24 PM
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It's worse here in NW Colorado than even in Wyoming. I wish I knew how to post pictures, it's pretty sickening. Thousands upon thousands of dead critters. Even coyotes and cats along with red fox. We got another foot last night. Wow! Hard to put into words how I feel for the critters. But why are the carnivores dieing?
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
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04/02/23 01:15 PM
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There is an overpopulation control problem, not a winter problem. You either allow more animals to be harvest or watch them starve to death. Now they want to shut down hunting? Nature will balance the wildlife herds if man won't. Shuttidown hunting would be the worst thing they could do. Just like shutting down trapping is the worst thing that can be done.
I'm glad you don't live here and can tell us what our problem is! Unless you've seen what these animals had to deal with this year, you have no clue what the wild west can be!! Really true, our deer have already been very scarce for years and the few that are left are dying off from the deep snow. We won't have hunting in NW Colorado and the State wildlife agency is required to begin introducing even more wolves now? I can't understand Boulder or Denver environmentalists! They politicize everything, even when they don't understand it.
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Re: Wyoming Deer and Antelope; Not Looking Good
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04/02/23 01:21 PM
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Im over in two places Elk mountain and Baggs area been here a lot of years and this is a tough one. Have you been down in Saratoga Valley, how are they looking ? Our valley here in Laramie is nice right now and not many issues, mountains keep getting it though. Best of luck with the rest of winter over there, afraid it's not near over yet.
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