https://fortscottmunitions.com/224-055-scp-rifle-projectile-bulk/

Anybody shot game with these? Looks impressive in that hard jello stuff everybody is always shooting. Are they an improvement over say partitions?

Interesting Danny. I’m following. Looks similar to Barnes? Solid copper tumble on impact, never heard of the concept. Barnes are tough for me to seat with those “ridges”, seems to take more lube to get them just right. But they are a great projectile and accurate out of my 300 wsm.

John

JoMiBru , I shoot TSX in my 300 win mag. Pretty impressive on paper and deer. If I go elk hunting again I am taking them along. Thought about 224 TSX too. Partitions have almost disappeared. I emailed Nosler and asked when they would be available again. Said no plans to run another batch at the moment I should buy accubond. I don't like that kind of attitude so searching for a 224 replacement hunting bullet.

Military rounds tumble on impact. Their center of balance is made off center.
Roy

Partitions are a great bullet I still have a few hundred in 30 cal. I don’t load any 224 stuff, but I’m curious about these Fortscott projectiles. Maybe others will chime in.

Have a good one

John

To bad about the partition they are a great bullet. I use the accubond quite a bit and its a great bullet too. Just expensive.

A bullet that tumbles on impact isnt going to penetrate very well ?

I thought this was interesting. In 5.56 another full metal jacket tumbled. Creating a lot of damage.

virtually all rifle projectiles turn base first

shoot in deep snow and you will find all your bullets pointing right back at your shooting bench when the snow melts

when I find bullets in deer on the far side then are always base first pointed generally back at the path of travel.

that is the cavitation you see in most ballistics gel

not a new concept at all , the Brits had a MK7 ammo that had a aluminum nose under the jacket ,it turned almost immediately , because of the heavier base

the US M855 5.56 round uses the steel penetrator tip to make a light nose that cavitates on entry because it is also a multi part bullet it often separates nose from base and may even shed it's jacket.

you can make the bullet conditionally stable by construction or rifling twist the 55gr M193 ammo from a 20 inch barrel with a 1:14 twist was conditionally stable , by the late 60s they changed to 1:12 twist and as barrels got shorter and bullets heavier 1:7 is the new norm for 5.56

I am not sure the product is worth the cost of 60 some cents a projectile to cavitate and stay one piece

It’s not legal on game animals here, but FMJ rounds out of a 5.56 or even 7.62 on hogs is completely devastating. Insides are toast and they generally drop on the spot or within a couple of attempted steps. Then again, most are head or “neck” shots. But the few that do get body shot don’t travel more than 3-5ft.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=krKUaksxWO8

This guy shoots alot of pigs with alot of different ammo.

I personally think the TUI ammo is a gimmick, and they are marketing the properties that all spire point bullets have.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C4-gRJ3XBB8

Here is the video of the necropsey and evaluation from the above hunt

I didn't watch it all but looks rather unimpressive . I think a plain soft point at the same velocity would have done better.

Yep. Looks like FMJ performance in a fancy box

here is the 9mm vs in a direct comparison to 9mm rem fjm

$$$ fmj is about it
interesting that it defeats body armor level 2 and 3

since I was wondering what does fmj look like in a meat target , who wouldn't be after above discussion

if you care to skip to the chase jump forward to 13:28


remember he is using a 20" barrel from 10 yards a very close distance so those 55s are still above 3K fps when they hit

for comparison some 55gr win super X , Federal and Ranger T. PSP ammo on the meet target
if you want to skip ahead jump to the 10 minute mark


I haven't shot a lot of deer with 223
the one I did shoot was with a 55gr Hornady psp from an AR pistol at about 20 yards from a tree stand , the deer ran a bloodless 25 yards because the base of the bullet stopped under the hide on the far side

high ribs quartering away to low ribs on the other side , organ jelly the entire inside of the chest cavity showed bruising

meat damage was almost nothing but some bullet fragments were found in the heart if you like to eat the heart tat could be an issue
when I did chrono that load I got about 2700fps so not a smoking fast load

If I did it again I would use something like a 64gr power point especially if I knew I was bumping the velocity a bit more weight and not too much velocity would be were I would want to be

I might also try an expanding monolithic like a barns triple shock , if I was going to invest in a premium bullet at a premium price point that is where I would jump too Barnes triple shock

I went a different direction and went 300blk and have taken some deer with them , that is a whole other discussion of bullets and findings.

Always bullets for sale on 24 hrs. Campfire. Lately folks are wanting a dollar a bullet for most stuff.