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Electric car #7826047
03/21/23 09:11 AM
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Friend sent this. True, or not ... dunno.

From an anonymous State Trooper in Wisconsin.


I’m not a fan of all electric vehicles. Too many variables affecting battery consumption. Definitely not suited for cold climates. The following experience just cements my distaste for EV’s, especially Tesla.



I get sent to a motorist assist the other day, at the start of our snow storm. Tesla on the side of the interstate, dead battery. So I arrive on scene and the occupants have the right-front door open. They tell me that they can’t open any other doors, because the battery is dead. Sure enough. Can’t open the doors from inside or outside. The driver also can’t get her license out of the glove box where she put it during their trip. Because the glovebox opens electronically… and the battery is dead. You actually have to use the computer in the center of the dash to open the glovebox.
They said they had 10% battery left, should’ve been plenty to get from that location to the charging station nearby. Then all of a sudden the whole car shut off and they coasted to the shoulder.
So now I have to find them a tow. No one wants to tow EV’s. Finally found one company to do it. 8 mile trip to the charging station in Tomah. $1,000! Normal vehicle on the flatbed would’ve been $150.


So now we’re at the Tesla superchargers. Guess what. Can’t open the charging port because the battery is dead!!! The ports open, you guessed it, electronically!!! And we also can’t open the doors now (had to close the one open door when it was loaded onto the wrecker). The owners manual is in the on board computer, but the battery is dead.
I got the occupants to a store where they’d be warm while calling the rental company to figure out how to charge this, so I’m not sure of the outcome. I had to leave for a crash report.
I’ll stick with my dinosaur burner.

Re: Electric car [Re: Crowfoot] #7826054
03/21/23 09:18 AM
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I’ll have to send this to a buddy that loves his Tesla always raging about the Flintstone cars even though he cannot take it to MO to hunt turkeys.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Electric car [Re: Crowfoot] #7826062
03/21/23 09:30 AM
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my Sister in law just got a tesla , they had been looking at a lighting but that really didn't seem to make sense to me

the tesla does sort of make sense for them a lot more sense than an electric truck to pull their camper

they have a big solar array on their house their average eclectic bill is basically the meter fee , she has a 20 minute drive to Campus , she works for the UW and will get rock star parking for having an EV and probably be able to charge in that rock star parking.

basically every issue with a tesla is a flat bed ride , don't ever let your insurance lap , you need to make sure your insuring the battery.

if at any point she does break down she can call my brother to go pick her up.


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Re: Electric car [Re: Crowfoot] #7826065
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I'm in tomah.

Re: Electric car [Re: Crowfoot] #7826066
03/21/23 09:36 AM
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Interesting i'd send this to my libber relatives but am sure my messages are blocked


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Re: Electric car [Re: Crowfoot] #7826068
03/21/23 09:38 AM
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Obviously this was not just a dead battery, but another issue. Battery was at 10% which for a battery that size should run everything but the motor.

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maybe it was more than a battery issue , but I have had plenty of phones , laptops and similar say 10% and <5 minutes later 0 and it is shuting off

I never trust it once under 25%

I think it is time to start thinking about charging at 50%


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Re: Electric car [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7826097
03/21/23 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
maybe it was more than a battery issue , but I have had plenty of phones , laptops and similar say 10% and <5 minutes later 0 and it is shuting off

I never trust it once under 25%

I think it is time to start thinking about charging at 50%



I'm the same way and I have a hard time convincing my wife that the phone batteries last a lot longer if you do not let it get below 50%. Lithium is that way, but still she lets it die all the time. Her phone batteries last half as long as mine because I start every day with a fully charged battery. I would expect lithium car batteries to be the same way.

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03/21/23 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Obviously this was not just a dead battery, but another issue. Battery was at 10% which for a battery that size should run everything but the motor.

10% IS DEAD!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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A bunch of Coal Miners had to drive down to Logan to give some retraining classes. We drove by an electric Car sitting along side the road. Turns out his Battery was dead. We gave him a lift to a Hillbilly little Go-Mart and went on our way. Later that night on the way home we saw it with the doors open so we stopped. Someone had filled that little interior with raw Coal and left a note that it was now charged since Coal charges everything. We all laughed and finished the drive home.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Electric car [Re: randall brannon] #7826169
03/21/23 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by randall brannon
Originally Posted by BernieB.
Obviously this was not just a dead battery, but another issue. Battery was at 10% which for a battery that size should run everything but the motor.

10% IS DEAD!!!



Oh and all this time I thought 10% was 10%, but now I find out that 10% is now actually 0%. Darn science always getting in the way.

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03/21/23 11:43 AM
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Sounds made up. All the doors and glove box and such run off the 12V battery, not the high voltage battery. The high voltage battery is only for moving the vehicle down the road. If the high voltage battery died while driving down the road, the 12V would still be fine for a while. Even if the 12V battery died, there's a little port in the front bumper where you can jump the 12V battery.

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it had a lot to do with draw

I had a tool battery the other day not my biggest battery I think it was a 1.5 or 2ah but it reported 2 bars when I grabbed it from by the back door, till I put it on my impact got 1 fastener half in and the tool shut off , the voltage might have been 2 bars but as soon as I started pulling current it was done.

had to run and get another battery from the house , I was thinking 2 of 4 bars should do the six 3 1/2" screws I needed I was wrong


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Re: Electric car [Re: loosegoose] #7826288
03/21/23 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Sounds made up. All the doors and glove box and such run off the 12V battery, not the high voltage battery. The high voltage battery is only for moving the vehicle down the road. If the high voltage battery died while driving down the road, the 12V would still be fine for a while. Even if the 12V battery died, there's a little port in the front bumper where you can jump the 12V battery.




So if the 12V battery goes bad that can happen then? Sent the story to my buddy that's a lawyer with a engineer degree he has a Tesla Iwill see what he comes up with. Even if Hes right I'll still raze him anyway. LOL

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Unless I;m missing something, wouldn't not being able to open the doors if the battery is dead be such a glaring problem and safety issue that it can't possibly be true? Your average 4 year old could see the lawsuits waiting to happen.

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My buddy said his Tesla has a regular pull handle to open his model. I told him he must have the cheaper one. LOL


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03/21/23 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Unless I;m missing something, wouldn't not being able to open the doors if the battery is dead be such a glaring problem and safety issue that it can't possibly be true? Your average 4 year old could see the lawsuits waiting to happen.


The whole story is bogus, there's no way it can be true. The doors is just one of the issues with the story. Tesla has one of the brightest people on the planet running it, and brilliant engineers.

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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Unless I;m missing something, wouldn't not being able to open the doors if the battery is dead be such a glaring problem and safety issue that it can't possibly be true? Your average 4 year old could see the lawsuits waiting to happen.

We'd have to see what the final diagnosis was.
All of that could possibly be true due to an issue somewhere in the system that shorted some circuits and literally drained all systems.
Many electrical functions have no mechanical overrides. Many do ... and should. Doors are likely one of them. However, the door locks are another monkey being all electrical (solenoid).
My truck has window crank handles. My Rav4 has electric only.
Maybe a squirrel got in it. One shut down our entire neighborhood more than once.

Re: Electric car [Re: trapdog1] #7826488
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Unless I;m missing something, wouldn't not being able to open the doors if the battery is dead be such a glaring problem and safety issue that it can't possibly be true? Your average 4 year old could see the lawsuits waiting to happen.

A couple of years ago this guy bought a new Corvette. It came equipped with electric solenoids to open the doors from the inside. He got in it and the battery was dead. He was unable to get out or break the window. He died 2 days later.

The salesman/dealership failed to inform him there was an emergency lever/pull handle located near the floor by his seat. It was also is in the driver's manual. Probably didn't have a phone with him to be able to call for help.

Can you imagine that lawsuit ?


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The vettes also have a door release in the hatchback.

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