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Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7815278
03/07/23 08:19 PM
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Not a problem Randy, it's what we do and who we are. Remember the first year we went down there all on our own,v i wonder what year that was? How many Town hall meetings, local county caucuses.

We still are trapping boys with meaningful tools because people like Randy make sacrifices. Randy won't toot his own horn but I will for him and won't hold back, I'm feeling a little sparky today lol. Randy does it on his own dime and his own time. I hate to think of how many times he had driven down to that cesspool this year alone making meetings. When I left yesterday after 3:30 he was going to try make more meetings or set up more. No excuses just does it

I think if we gave an award for furthest traveled Id have won every year, sure would like to get knocked off.

I'm almost positive I will be back at least one more time in the next couple of weeks at least. Anyone that wants to come.meet their legislators I or randy will help. I'm working on meeting a southern senator as well at his town. That one is only 6 hours away. Six hours I could be in Montana hunting with my buddy

Guys this crap is serious. Trapping issues are the tip of the w ice berg. They passed an abomination of an abortion bill, passed an energy bill that is going to at least double or triple current rates, and today numb nuts signed a bill to allow drivers license for all. They want to raise vehicle license by 60 percent and.tye.gun control proposals will blow the top off. We had 50 yesterday IMHO, no reason it can't be 100

Any how off my soap box for.now, good.luck fishing when you go randy you deserve a break. Send me a report


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7816099
03/08/23 09:42 PM
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A big thanks to Randy and Steve and all the others who sacrificed their time and money to make a difference!


Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7816887
03/09/23 07:12 PM
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Good luck to You guys I hope You fair better than We did here in Maine.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7819421
03/12/23 10:00 PM
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Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7819595
03/13/23 08:54 AM
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Thank you, gentlemen, for all you do to keep trapping alive in Minnesota. I know it takes a lot of time and effort. You are much appreciated.


I'm just happy to be here! Today I'm as young as I'll ever be and and older than I've ever been before!
Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7820700
03/14/23 08:45 PM
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Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7820724
03/14/23 09:09 PM
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Gentlemen and ladies, it appears that none of these bill got committee hearings, that means as a stand alone bill they would be very difficult to pass.

That doesn't mean those bills or parts of those bills cannot be amended to another bill and pass on that bill's back.

Now is the time it's really important to educate your legislators about our issues and hopefully they remember when it comes time to vote on said amendments. If it comes to that I expect we will lose in the house and will need a few democrats and all of the rebuplicans to be victorious.

Keep sending emails and getting your friends and family to email as well. It's simple and free.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7820734
03/14/23 09:23 PM
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Awesome, glad to see it fail. I still hope trappers may consider how to best proceed into the future which in my opinion would include limiting a few types of traps/snares in ROW and public land. Non elevated 220s being my main concern.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7820773
03/14/23 10:15 PM
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If anyone thinks that giving up 220s on land will make the bad bills stop I got bad news for you. It won't, this stuff will just keep coming, their goal is to end all trapping.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: Rat Masterson] #7820804
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
If anyone thinks that giving up 220s on land will make the bad bills stop I got bad news for you. It won't, this stuff will just keep coming, their goal is to end all trapping.


It will not stop bad bills, it will help dwindle support. Like I said previously, if we can give up a few things and point back to lets say 2023 trapping season as have 0 fatal pet incidences which has carried forward for the past 5 years it sets a precedent.

I don't think the "don't give an inch" is the best method to maintain effective trapping, that is my opinion.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7820820
03/14/23 11:36 PM
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I believe we not only " don't give an inch" but start taking back what is ours. We could start by throwing some resources at aggressively pushing leash laws and penalties. By any angle we can think of. Dangerous dogs, trespassing, animal welfare, etc. What if our resources aggressively lobbied the ag industry for partnerships. Start suing everyone that introduces stupid legislation. All the trappers have been doing is giving. Trappers are too nice.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7820989
03/15/23 09:07 AM
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"I don't think the "don't give an inch" is the best method to maintain effective trapping, that is my opinion"

We all know that having this mentality will be the start of the end, well nearly all know I guess.


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Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7821018
03/15/23 09:37 AM
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Thank you to everyone that showed up at the capitol or wrote letters/email to get this stopped. It won't end here but we have to keep standing up to the nonsense.
I'm guessing a big part of their undoing on this was how over the top aggressive these proposals were.
Maybe we should take a lesson from that before "aggressively pushing leash laws." Let's not be blind to the fact that there legitimate reasons to have dogs/hounds off leash in the woods.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7821022
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Awesome, glad to see it fail. I still hope trappers may consider how to best proceed into the future which in my opinion would include limiting a few types of traps/snares in ROW and public land. Non elevated 220s being my main concern.


To get serious about finding reasonable workable solutions you need to shift the focus from the type of trap to the type of set it is used in. There is a heck of a big difference in where it is safe to set a 220 as a blind trail set vs when and where it is not safe to put a baited 220 cubby.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7821027
03/15/23 09:52 AM
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The problem with giving an inch is it isn't as easy as it seems. Maybe 10 years ago


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Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7821100
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The trappers are the ones to give ,EVERY time. The antis have nothing to give, all they want is to end us. Death by a 1000 cuts.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7821302
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With Governor Goofy at the helm and the democrats owning the house and senate, they feel this is their big opportunity to get make trapping so restrictive most trappers will give it up. Same thing applies to firearms with the bills they're trying to push through.


Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: goldy] #7821337
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I cannot stand the give an inch mentality, it never works and will be how we lose all rights. Never capitulate.


Help yourself.



Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: walleye101] #7821566
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Awesome, glad to see it fail. I still hope trappers may consider how to best proceed into the future which in my opinion would include limiting a few types of traps/snares in ROW and public land. Non elevated 220s being my main concern.


To get serious about finding reasonable workable solutions you need to shift the focus from the type of trap to the type of set it is used in. There is a heck of a big difference in where it is safe to set a 220 as a blind trail set vs when and where it is not safe to put a baited 220 cubby.


What are you more worried about in the north woods. A baited cubby or wolves eating your dog. If they were really worried about saving real numbers of dogs we would be shooting wolves on sight as well. Dogs don't mean a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) thing.

Re: Minnesota Trappers: legislative alert! [Re: rbsheadache] #7821577
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Originally Posted by rbsheadache
"I don't think the "don't give an inch" is the best method to maintain effective trapping, that is my opinion"

We all know that having this mentality will be the start of the end, well nearly all know I guess.


Doesn't every restriction make trapping less effective? By nature?
Every inch is an inch closer to the end. I would rather attack and go out with a bang than just bend over and go out with a whimper.

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