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Will this pattern kill? #7821304
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I figured I should probably put some more time into patterning my gun for turkey season this year, I've never killed a turkey before, does this pattern look alright? I probably ought to hold left a bit but I see all the pictures of some wicked patterns with tss and such but do you really need all that?
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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821309
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I've shot alot of gobblers and I would not be happy with that pattern at all .

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821310
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Yes. It could be tighter and more even in the center but you have enough hits to do the deed.

Also when shooting turkeys don't just sit there watching the flop like you see on all the videos. Safe the gun and move ASAP to put your foot on it's neck until the flopping stops. I often wonder how many of those videos edit out the flop and up and running bad shots. Turkeys can be tough.

My last one still had fire in his eye when I got to him and that was a 25 yard shot.


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821311
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Will it kill I say yes you have some in kill zone, it only takes one. However I like it a little tighter. I would pick up a couple different types of shot and shell. Shoot and compare. Tss is way to go if available and you have the money, but you will pay. Not sure what's available on your area shell wise. But I have Mossberg 500 in 12 with an underertaker and have had good patterns with nitros.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821319
03/15/23 05:15 PM
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I would not be happy with that. Add in a few sticks and limps, that turkeys flys off. TSS seems expensive until you figure in all that goes with it. Unless you shoot s pile of turkey, after you get patterned. 5 will last you a long time. It will turn your 20 ga into a turkey killing machine, that will rival any 12 ga.

If you want to stick to lead, try a 6 shot. The Winchester LB do ok. What is the construction of your choke?


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821320
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looks good to me. adjust your pattern to the left a tad and dont shoot any further at a bird. the shot you made would have put it down. do what warrier said when it starts its flop.


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821322
03/15/23 05:19 PM
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Not a pattern I’d use if your off to the right a bit the hole in the pattern gets even bigger.

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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821323
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Try 6s

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821326
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Not enough pattern for me to say.

Shoot it on a bigger sheet so you can evaluate the pattern better.

It's most likely good enough, I've killed a bunch of birds and I bet more than 75% were under 20yrds with 95% under 30.


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821355
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For only 35 yards I'd keep trying something different

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821356
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it will but not what I'd like agree on 6 shot i still use my model 12 12 gauge 30 inch full

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rick brocious] #7821358
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Originally Posted by rick brocious
I've shot alot of gobblers and I would not be happy with that pattern at all .

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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821366
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they are expensive but get a 5 pack of 3" TSS #9's, nothing kills like TSS

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821368
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I wouldn't be happy with that. Too many good combinations that perform much better. I have both a Carlson extra full and and Undertaker choke that love almost any #5 or 6 shot in a 3 inch shell.


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821383
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According to that pattern it will kill. Would I hunt with it no. You can spend alot on pattering. I shot several different shells and choke tubes over the years in a 3.5 Mossberg and then I bought a primos Jelly head and Winchester Long beard #5 and did a pattern test and was very happy. As mentioned above those TSS in a 20 are the ticket.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821395
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Not a pattern I would head to the woods with. If you do not want to go TSS with an appropriate choke, try other shells or shot sizes and different choke tubes until you hit a much better combination. The only way you will figure it out is to try different combinations. Reducing the distance is another way to improve your chance of a clean kill but distance is easy to misjudge in the heat of the moment.

And if you do go TSS, a tighter choke is not usually what patterns best. And, yes, you need to pattern TSS also so you know how the gun/shell combination performs.


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821411
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if you are interested in shooting TSS look up nitro ammunition and check out their recomendations page

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821416
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35 yds at a turkey is pushing it for a 20 unless you get TSS in the pipe

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821417
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Everyone saying 3 inch I've had better luck 2 3/4, funny how it differs person to person. Gun to gun.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7821424
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The problem with the original post pattern is if you add a little cover between the bird and shooter it’s a missed or lost bird most likely, it would be questionable if the shot was clear.


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