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Taxing tip earners #7795103
02/10/23 10:33 AM
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Shame on the IRS for their planned attack on poor tip earners. The administration promised no new taxes on anyone earning below $400,000.

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795106
02/10/23 10:34 AM
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Always tip with cash!


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Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795112
02/10/23 10:37 AM
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A tax on those making over 400k is still a tax on everyone. Everything is connected.

Politicians lie democrats do it in your face and tell you what you see is not happening. Their followers believe them.

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795114
02/10/23 10:37 AM
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It's note a new tax. It was always taxable income

Like leftlane I try to tip cash every chance I can


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: Leftlane] #7795115
02/10/23 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Always tip with cash!

X2

I always do this just for tax reasons. Waitstaff is underpaid and need whatever they get.


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Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795121
02/10/23 10:44 AM
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This is the man they wanted in so let the chips fall

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795145
02/10/23 11:19 AM
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The cash is what they are after, credit card tips are already taxed. More record keeping for the owners and I'm sure fines involved for mistakes or non compliance. Should be up to the employee to report their income. Eventually the Gov. will go cashless, problem solved. I mean after all they are doing such a good job using our money wisely, they should have more.

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795147
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You can have people working for cash and not paying taxes on it or you can have social benefits to low earners but not both. How many people working for Cash also claim other Govt benefits for low earners? I would say many and that is the problem. You didn't really think they upped the IRS budget to target the rich anyways did you?

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: frank1969] #7795152
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Originally Posted by frank1969
This is the man they wanted in so let the chips fall


X2, I’ll bet most servers did vote for Pres Lieden .

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795216
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Need someone for the 87,000 new IRS agents to harass.

Being in business, I wish they would stick sending out w9's and/or 1099's out to vendors and customers for anyone you did a couple hundred dollars worth of business with.

WHAT A PITA!

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: hippie] #7795257
02/10/23 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Need someone for the 87,000 new IRS agents to harass.

Being in business, I wish they would stick sending out w9's and/or 1099's out to vendors and customers for anyone you did a couple hundred dollars worth of business with.

WHAT A PITA!



I THOUGHT I read a piece a couple days ago that this was called off for this tax year.


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Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: hippie] #7795261
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Originally Posted by hippie
Need someone for the 87,000 new IRS agents to harass.

Being in business, I wish they would stick sending out w9's and/or 1099's out to vendors and customers for anyone you did a couple hundred dollars worth of business with.

WHAT A PITA!

I will not do the IRS's job for them, never have and wont.

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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by hippie
Need someone for the 87,000 new IRS agents to harass.

Being in business, I wish they would stick sending out w9's and/or 1099's out to vendors and customers for anyone you did a couple hundred dollars worth of business with.

WHAT A PITA!



I THOUGHT I read a piece a couple days ago that this was called off for this tax year.


Businesses doing it here. I won't, but when one that does calls me wanting my ein number to send me a 1099, I give it to them and then file said 1099 in the trash when it arrives.
Their business with me is already calculated by the month in my books, what do I need a 1099 for?

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795276
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To remind you of those BIG bucks you made fixing Granny's Corvette.........the same dollars you planned to NOT include on schedule C because she paid in cash laugh


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Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: bodycount] #7795279
02/10/23 03:22 PM
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I too thought for sure I heard that this "bill" was denied, that it didn't go through...how did I miss that it evidently did ?

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Originally Posted by white17
To remind you of those BIG bucks you made fixing Granny's Corvette.........the same dollars you planned to NOT include on schedule C because she paid in cash laugh


That brings up a question!

I do jobs alot for every day people that the bill goes over the threshold...are they required to send me a 1099 like the businesses I do work for on their company vehicles?

Re: Taxing tip earners [Re: hippie] #7795285
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Originally Posted by hippie
Originally Posted by white17
To remind you of those BIG bucks you made fixing Granny's Corvette.........the same dollars you planned to NOT include on schedule C because she paid in cash laugh


That brings up a question!

I do jobs alot for every day people that the bill goes over the threshold...are they required to send me a 1099 like the businesses I do work for on their company vehicles?


I am sure that IRS would tell you YES that revenue must be included on your return. Whether or not the individual must send you & IRS a 1099 is a matter of a dollar threshold which used to be $600.........and may still be. But your accountant can tell you for sure.

But, as long as you claim the revenue, you won't be on the hot seat if the other person doesn't send the 1099. That's on them.


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they need to finance their war with putin..3 billion every few weeks tends to add up.


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362 more days until I sign on the dotted line for them to send me a monthly check and I can tell them to stick their bs. laugh

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