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Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #7791603
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
looks good so far ,, how are you going to finish off the inside ceiling ? this will tell you what you need to do on roof ?


Wood paneling or sheetrock. I'm very open to suggestions, I'm trying to do this right without knowing much about building from the ground up. Most of my building experience has been fixing something that already exist

Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7791619
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Ask 10 guys how to build something and get 10 different answers. I can tell you a couple of way that did not work so well for me. I think the roof you are putting on will succeed where mine failed.

A better way to state my advice is that the 1 1/2" air gap between the osb roof deck and the bottom of the tin is pretty important. As you already know, heat will try to build in this space and can build frost. Give that heat somewhere to vent off at the ridge. This advice assumes you will insulate with fiberglass batts between the rafters (i.e. against the bottom of the roof deck). If you are using spray foam or installing a ceiling/ventilated attic disregard.

I hope the weather straightens out for you soon.

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Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7791669
02/05/23 12:03 PM
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How much snow do you guys get up there ?

I'm an overkill kinda guy

I think I would run some collar ties and some rafter ties

Or run the rafter ties up 1/3 ( no more , no less ) up the rafter from the top plate to give you a taller ceiling . This could serve as a rafter tie / collar tie. Although I'm annal so I'd prolly still run some small collar ties .

Are you going to run electrical ? If so , run a couple outlets in the ceiling so you can plug in some shop lights . You can also run a separate out outlet for a small winch for skinning deer . Just beef up a spot to attach the chain or winch before you insulate and sheet .


Building is looking good BTW




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Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7791675
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We get a good bit of snow but the roof is 10/12 and with it being metal I'm not anticipating any snow issues.

Do you think I need the rafter ties or could I get away without them? I was hoping to keep my entire ceiling , mainly because it looks cool

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Never mind the ceiling joists in this picture , you can attach your osb or sheet rock to the rafter ties


This system will give more head height



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Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7791683
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
We get a good bit of snow but the roof is 10/12 and with it being metal I'm not anticipating any snow issues.

Do you think I need the rafter ties or could I get away without them? I was hoping to keep my entire ceiling , mainly because it looks cool



Good question , with that pitch and metal roofing you may be ok . I've never done one with no collar ties or rafter ties , but it's my understanding that you must then use an adequate size ridge beam to hold entire load .

Maybe lugnut or someone will chime in


What you have going looks pretty good , maybe I'm just over thinking it


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And I agree , the more open you can keep it the better


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Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: newfox1] #7791725
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Originally Posted by newfox1
If you’re going to put snow and ice shield on it put your tin on the roof deck, screw it in the flats.



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Collar ties can't hurt but with a 10/12 I wouldn't worry about it.

EDIT: I can't quite tell from the picture but is there blocking between each pair of rafter tails....at the plate ? If not, there should be

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Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: white17] #7791743
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by newfox1
If you’re going to put snow and ice shield on it put your tin on the roof deck, screw it in the flats.



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Collar ties can't hurt but with a 10/12 I wouldn't worry about it.

EDIT: I can't quite tell from the picture but is there blocking between each pair of rafter tails....at the plate ? If not, there should be


Thanks, there is not blocking, I will add some

Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7791744
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Good decision. 2x6x 22 7/16 should slide right in there if your rafters are 24" OC. Gonna be some awkward nailing or screwing

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Re: Incompetent carpenter, shed update 2 [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7791760
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Get that skinning machine hoist installed early while stuff is easy to get to. smile

A wall mounted skinner that swings back against the wall under it is a real space saver.

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