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Frustrated #7781665
01/25/23 12:18 AM
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Ok so I am doing pretty well with cables this year but am striking out pretty badly on footholds.
I have read hundreds of pages on the forums and am pretty confident things are bedded right and set in good locations.

I have had probably forty different sets and have one red fox to show for it. I have had cameras in many (not all) and most times coyotes or fox get 8-10' downwind and respond very cautiously and don't investigate.

Some traps are dipped, some are dyed, some are bare. I sort of got into the footholds in the middle of the season so it's basically how I bought them as I was told it's pretty tough to treat do anything without it being dry out. I feel like trap scent, or bedding in peat moss are the only explanations.
I take many scent precautions at the sets.

So...Any ideas?
If it is trap odor is there anything I can really do at this point?

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7781674
01/25/23 12:35 AM
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Maybe you're using too much lure

Re: Frustrated [Re: AJE] #7781680
01/25/23 12:53 AM
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Some sets are blind sets with only scat and urine.
I don't have those on camera but they have not produced.

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7781682
01/25/23 12:57 AM
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What part of PA are you from?

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7781695
01/25/23 01:28 AM
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As for the coyotes, make sure you aren't using too much backing and guiding.

Last edited by AJE; 01/25/23 01:28 AM.
Re: Frustrated [Re: hipp2412] #7781801
01/25/23 08:13 AM
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Some sets were definitely big and flashy with a lot of backing. Others were very subtle. I don't have cameras on any subtle traps but they haven't been successful.

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7781805
01/25/23 08:21 AM
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A lot of cameras will spook coyotes

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7781884
01/25/23 09:50 AM
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Has the area your trapping been hit by others? Coyotes are cautious enough without being educated by another trapper. I use a very small backing, very little lure, no bait, no urine, and blend well. Once its set, don't fiddle with it. I'm no professional by any means but manage to catch a few. Never used cameras at a set so can't comment on that.


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Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7782179
01/25/23 04:57 PM
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Sounds like your trapping in pa to me haha ..just keep at it an have patience

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Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7782292
01/25/23 07:57 PM
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The area is pressured and most animals on camera look to be mature. They could be educated.

Cameras are at a distance and most sets don't have cameras.

I will try the very subtle lure only on the next set.

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7782369
01/25/23 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthMtntrapper
The area is pressured and most animals on camera look to be mature. They could be educated.

Cameras are at a distance and most sets don't have cameras.

I will try the very subtle lure only on the next set.


I suspect it may be a pressure thing. I grew up in North Central PA and every logging road access seemed to have used dirt holes and old flat sets.


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Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7782421
01/25/23 10:20 PM
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I don’t put cameras on sets just because I don’t want to see what I missed. Coyote trapping is frustrating enough already.

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7782430
01/25/23 10:27 PM
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Yeah, but with cameras they’ll tell you where to set. Made quite a few catches adjusting my set or adding a set for the next time they came through.

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7782950
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Snow doesn't lie.


Had a trap placed at the end of a tree that fell into the field and the tip was bright white from rotting. I bedding the trap next to some scat I moved and had only urine as an attractant.
Coyote prints up to and trap was sprung but empty.

Last edited by NorthMtntrapper; 01/26/23 12:26 PM.
Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7783056
01/26/23 03:30 PM
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We don’t have that luxury or curse down here.

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7783079
01/26/23 03:49 PM
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Heavily exploited, and/or low population density coyotes may as well be a whole different species from un-pressured, high population individuals.

First thing I’d do is can the camera usage.

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Re: Frustrated [Re: AJE] #7783185
01/26/23 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AJE
Maybe you're using too much lure

Thats good advice. People don’t realize how long good lure lasts. Or how little of a good lure you need Caught 518 coyotes last year and 541 coyotes the year before. And people who have been with me on line. Are amazed at = how little lure I use Just a drop on end of qtip is ENOUGH

Re: Frustrated [Re: Boone Liane] #7783191
01/26/23 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Heavily exploited, and/or low population density coyotes may as well be a whole different species from un-pressured, high population individuals.

First thing I’d do is can the camera usage.

Totally agree^^^^^ I CANNOT tell you how many times in 35 years of coyote trapping I have heard a landowner say = I have the worst coyote problem you have ever seen!! Afew coyotes can make ALOT of tracks

Re: Frustrated [Re: Wanna Be] #7783193
01/26/23 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
We don’t have that luxury or curse down here.

Got snowed on in West Texas a year or so back. Just getting started luckily. Only afew seta out. Didnt care for it much! LoL!!!

Re: Frustrated [Re: NorthMtntrapper] #7783359
01/26/23 09:25 PM
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Walked my property today and found one set of coyote tracks. Seeing how it’s fenced and I’ve trapped his property for a while I placed three new sets at different spots I found the tracks…probably over about 30ac.
Based on some posts I going with less is more type deal. I’m hoping he’s the only one left. Well him and that stupid beaver…he was a no show last night.

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